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    Posted: 06 August 2008 at 7:31pm

Originally blamed on Muslims, Bruce Ivins was a white Roman Catholic. No spokesperson has come forward from the FBI to apologise to American Muslims for casting suspicion upon us for this heinous crime, nor has the Roman Catholic Church or Christians in general apologised and taken responsibility for his actions.

If a Muslim had been found guilty of this act of terrorism, the worst act of bioterrorism EVER commited in America, then our religion would have been plastered all over the news and all Muslims would be held collectively accountable, as per normal.
 
 
"The victims and family members of the 2001 anthrax mailings have waited patiently for nearly seven years to find out who was responsible for the worst case of bioterrorism in U.S. history. This morning during a special briefing at FBI Headquarters, Director Robert Mueller provided answers. The briefing took place several hours before the public release of documents relating to the investigation.
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While updating victims and their families on the case�in which five people were killed and 17 were sickened�Mueller said that �the pain and suffering the attacks caused the victims and their families was in the minds of all the investigators� as they tirelessly worked to solve the case. That pain and suffering, he added, �has never, ever been lost to us.�

Read: Anthrax Case Court Documents

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The FBI and Department of Justice Officials held a press conference Aug. 6 to talk about one of the most complex and comprehensive investigations ever conducted by law enforcement.

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By the Numbers

5: deaths caused by anthrax
17: persons sickened
17: FBI agents assigned to case
10: Postal Inspectors on case
9,100: interviews conducted
26,000: e-mails reviewed
75: searches conducted
6: continents canvassed
4 million: megabytes of computer memory analyzed

This afternoon during a press conference, Department of Justice and FBI officials highlighted some of the information contained in the just-released Amerithrax documents, explaining why charges were about to be brought against anthrax researcher Dr. Bruce Ivins, who took his own life before those charges could be filed.

U.S. Attorney Jeff Taylor, District of Columbia, said that normally evidence against a suspect who has not been charged is not publicly released, in part because of the presumption of innocence. �But,� added Taylor, �because of the extraordinary public interest in this investigation...we are compelled to take the extraordinary step of providing the victims, their families, Congress, and the American public with an overview of some recent developments as well as some of our conclusions.�

Because of Ivins� death, the government will not be able to present its case in court. But according to Assistant Director in Charge Joseph Persichini, FBI Washington Field Office, �Bruce Ivins was responsible for the death, sickness, and fear brought to our country by the 2001 anthrax mailings.�

The Amerithrax investigation is one of the largest and most complex investigations ever conducted by law enforcement. The Amerithrax Task Force, comprised of 17 special agents and 10 U.S. postal inspectors, has conducted more than 9,100 interviews, executed more than 70 searches, and followed leads across six continents. Along the way, a brand new science was developed that ultimately led to the big break in the case.

That science�creating a DNA equivalent of a fingerprint�allowed investigators to pinpoint the origins of the anthrax. The FBI Laboratory, in conjunction with the best experts in the scientific community, developed four highly sensitive and specific tests to detect the unique qualities of the anthrax used in the 2001 attacks. This took several years to accomplish, but in early 2005 the groundbreaking research successfully identified where the anthrax used in the mailings had come from.

Another key piece of evidence was provided when investigators were able to identify a limited geographic area where the anthrax envelopes were purchased based on a forensic investigation that revealed printing defects in certain batches of envelopes.

In 2006, speaking about the investigation, Persichini said investigators were frustrated that no arrests had been made, but that �no one in the FBI has, for a moment, stopped thinking about the innocent victims of these attacks...The FBI's commitment to solving this case is undiminished."

Today, Persichini was able to tell the American public that a chapter on one of the most heinous crimes committed against the citizens of the United States has been closed.

Resources:  
Amerithrax Investigation
- Linguistic and Behavioral Analysis (2001)
- The Search for Anthrax
- Details and Images of Letter to Sen. Patrick Leahy 



Edited by Shasta'sAunt - 06 August 2008 at 7:33pm
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The question posed here would be, although his religious convictions are known, was his actions based on the pretense of religion or for other reasons?
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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

The question posed here would be, although his religious convictions are known, was his actions based on the pretense of religion or for other reasons?
 
Is that the question asked when a "Muslim" does something wrong? Even in countries such as Palestine where political reasons are given it is still turned to Islam. 
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Originally posted by Shasta'sAunt Shasta'sAunt wrote:

Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

The question posed here would be, although his religious convictions are known, was his actions based on the pretense of religion or for other reasons?
 
Is that the question asked when a "Muslim" does something wrong? Even in countries such as Palestine where political reasons are given it is still turned to Islam. 
 
 
 
 Pretty much. If you do a poll now in the streets of the U.S. and ask what is the reason why Muslim terrorist kill majority would say its for religious reasons. Even if you discuss the Palestinian/Israeli issue. Thanks to the media, the cause of Muslims abroad whether violent or not is mostly religiously based.


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What are the odds on the truth coming out about 911?
I like to see some one gutsy enough in the media or administration to say few words of apology to Muslims in general and the Muslim citizens of this nation in particular!

I do remember the panic when I was responsible for setting up anthrax detection zones in our large corporation  to detect any of that substance in any piece of mail coming in which were in zillions, it was terrible experience!



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Originally posted by Shasta'sAunt Shasta'sAunt wrote:

Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

The question posed here would be, although his religious convictions are known, was his actions based on the pretense of religion or for other reasons?
Is that the question asked when a "Muslim" does something wrong?
Yes, absolutely the question is asked when it is appropriate.  I recall that the religious motives of the 9/11 terrorists were explored in detail.
 
Quote Even in countries such as Palestine where political reasons are given it is still turned to Islam.
Well, for a start, I've never heard of a Catholic priest promising that terrorists would be rewarded in heaven. Politics may be the motive, but religion gives them the permission and the courage.
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"Yes, absolutely the question is asked when it is appropriate.  I recall that the religious motives of the 9/11 terrorists were explored in detail."
 
Only because they were Muslim. And where were the manifestos left by these guys stating that they were doing it in the name of Islam? There is none. The hijackers themselves left nothing stating that it was religiously motivated.
In fact, the men they say are responsible for the hijackings were often seen drinking, partying, and being with girls. At least one of them had a full time serious girlfriend: Aysel Senguen, who had an abortion. Anathema to Muslims. If you have learned anything about Islam and Muslims from being on this board it should be how strict we are regarding drinking and mixing with the opposite sex.
If a practicing Muslim were getting ready to go to his death in the cause of Islam he certainly wouldn't be drinking and fornicating right before his death.
 
What actually happened after 9-11 was that as soon as it was alledged that the hijackers were from the Middle East it immediately became a religious attack. Despite the fact that as early as 1996 Bin Laden had warned the U.S. that he considered himself at war with us because of the military installations in Saudi Arabia. Not because of Christianity or trying to spread Islam.
 
When Christian terrorists were setting bombs at the Olympics and shooting doctors at abortion clinics the religious angle was barely mentioned. But if you are interested in knowing how they justify killing using Christian scripture it's easy enough to Google.
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