Women in Islam versus Judeo-christiamity |
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Shasta'sAunt
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Well, speaking as a woman who worked for many years in a field where I was in charge of men and women and my decisions and how I performed my duties affected people's lives, I just have to say that stating a menstruating woman cannot perform her duties is just ridiculous.
If every single woman who had to work to survive became incompetent and ineffectual everytime she had her menses they would starve. Not to mention all of those womanly household chores that wouldn't get done and the children who would be on their own for 3 to 7 days a week.....
I am curious, do you women just stay in bed for your entire menses? How can you drive a car which takes concentration and decision making skills, decide what to cook for dinner which forces you to decide something, watch over your children which forces you to be a leader.... Edited by Shasta'sAunt - 28 June 2008 at 8:46am |
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Nur_Ilahi
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Dear Shasta's aunt,
I have no doubt whatsoever that women can excel in anything if they put their mind to it and even the worse of menstruation cramps will not put them off.
As to lying down in bed, personally, I had the experience, once in a while, but still even how terrible it was it only took about one day of incapacity. Other than that no matter what, household chores does not recognize medical leave.
I am just trying to point out to Angel as to why women are not made to be leaders of men. Of course there are a few excellent women, but if it takes precedence over family, i think she is not a successful women. Only women who excel in her career as well as her family, then, that woman could be considered extraordinary. However not many can be found.
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Angel
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Using menstruation is a quite poor example, Nur. As well as men are weak or the women a soft voice to get lost in, that is also a poor excuse to not let women lead, why should women suffer/miss out because men are weak. Perhaps the men need to strengthen up a bit.
Is that how you see the whole thing, that woman would be leaders of men? Because I don't, if your in a mix congretation at the mosque then there is no need for such things.
If you're going to have an all male gathering, then yes let one of the men lead. And with an all female gathering then one of the women will as that is already happening there is no need for things to change. When ALL attend for mosque together then it should be allowed for women to lead. If you're going to have a balanced religion then both genders should be allowed NOT just one, otherwise it is an unbalanced religion and one I cannot really call the only true religion (not that I do anyway) . It should be given as a choice a choice of the woman if they choose to follow that path.
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Angel
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Shasta'sAunt
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"Of course there are a few excellent women,"
Sister, there are hundreds of thousands of women who have children and no husband who have to work and do everything else out of necessity, women who are married but their husbands refuse or are unable to financially support them, women who have to work because one salary is not enough. And I am not talking about one salary not being enough to buy televisions and cars, I am talking about not enough to buy food and gas.
These women do not have the option of staying at home. If I am to believe what I have been reading, then you and other Muslim women consider these women immasculate failures. Is that correct?
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seekshidayath
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Anyways Angel, women in Islam are given maximum freedom, which they can enjoy to the fullest. But if they try to cross them, they not only contaminate themselves, but also the whole society. We did read, how well do other religions treat women . Show me one single religion, which gives her such freedom.
Shasta'a aunt, a muslim woman can come out if there is necessity. But again if she defines her own definition of necessity, it may be tough again. Unless, the basic eminities are not met, she can go out for jobs.
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Shasta'sAunt
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"Anyways Angel, women in Islam are given maximum freedom, which they can enjoy to the fullest. But if they try to cross them, they not only contaminate themselves, but also the whole society. We did read, how well do other religions treat women . Show me one single religion, which gives her such freedom.
Shasta'a aunt, a muslim woman can come out if there is necessity. But again if she defines her own definition of necessity, it may be tough again. Unless, the basic eminities are not met, she can go out for jobs."
If Muslim women have maximum freedom, which I personally believe they do, then they have the right to go out whenever they choose to do so. Your statement putting conditions on this negates your avowel of maximum freedom. If she has to, if a man lets her, but not if she herself defines the necessity, she can't cross boundaries or she will contaminate society.... All of this to feed your children? No wonder so many non-Muslims think Islam treats women so badly. It's not Islam, it's the Muslims.
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