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honeto 
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 Topic: 19th question about islamPosted: 26 June 2008 at 6:47pm |
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believer,
you may see it that way, but the claim that "Jesus came to destroy devil's work" says it all without any further explaination or support words.
What we see as devil's work everywhere after Jesus (pbuh) proves that this statment is not so, its not correct.
However, it is fine to say that he came to equip his followers with faith to defeat the devil's desires and works. The same job that was given to all of the prophets of God. Devil or Satan still is active and his work still visible to us, thus this statment is a misquote associated to Jesus, and according to the Quran, Satan and his work will be there until the Day of Judgement, when Satan will be burning along with those who fall in his trap of going on the wrong path or disbelief.
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted: 26 June 2008 at 3:47pm |
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The Law which we must follow [to not do the devils work] was fulfilled by Jesus.
What did Jesus come to do? http://www.carm.org/doctrine/Jesuscame.htm |
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16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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Posted: 19 June 2008 at 3:12pm |
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believer,
I would not have to repeat many things to you if you don't look the other way:
"reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."
devil's work still continues in this world and will be so until the End. The presence of devil and devil's work in contrast to this verse proofs that its a incorrect statement and wrongly associated with Jesus (Pbuh).
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted: 12 June 2008 at 7:34pm |
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Yes it was achieved because I will be in heaven with GOD through Jesus. |
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16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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Posted: 11 June 2008 at 5:32pm |
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believer,
if you just pay attention to your words, you will find them to be inconsistant. You said: "reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."
If its true what you have just said, then it seems like that it was not achieved, was it?
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Posted: 11 June 2008 at 3:31pm |
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Maybe not at the exact same time but though out the time of a person's life one who is righteous could also at another time be sinful.
You must carefully read the Bible:
"blameless among the people of his time"
Noah is righteous compared to the people of his time- he is not being compared to the righteousness of Jesus.
Genesis 6
9 This is the account of Noah.
Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God. GOD always chooses the least of evils to carry out His plan.
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Posted: 11 June 2008 at 6:30am |
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Believer, your above quotes need not be challenged as wrong. But they are not useful because they are not related to the issue at hand. It is shown to you that a righteous man will shine and is saved by the Grace of God. Also, if one is called righteous then he is free from sin. A sinful man will not be called righteous by God Almighty. How can a man be righteous and sinful at the same time?
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Posted: 10 June 2008 at 12:18pm |
No confusion here. Maybe this will help you."reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work."
John 3
8He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. Luke 19 10For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost." Hebrews 2 14Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death�that is, the devil� 15and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.
Psalm 34:19 does not necessarily deal with the after life- more of this life.
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