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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 2008 at 11:38pm
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Israfil, are you a Muslim or not? If not then what are doing coming here and forcing us to listen to your dictates on homosexuality? Follow what you want and allow us to follow our faith, Islam. 
 
You are full of chauvanist attacks and your post sounds very illogical and prejudiced. It seems that you just want to manipulate this board to promote promiscuity and homosexuality. You have not read my comments or researched the links on scientific evidence against homosexuality that I posted, but only attacked all my posts even when it is crystal clear now that homosexuality is a disorder. It is very foolish of you, Israfil to say all those scientists in NARTH are wrong.
 
 
You should be careful before scandalizing a full team of educated scientists. They have far more qualifications than you and I. So, some humility will benefit you, as you only make yourself appear really ridiculous when you reject scientific and medical research. And sisnce you quoted me out of context, I am re-pasting my full response to you again. You haven't bothered reading or researching the evidence but just here to debunk and attack anyone who disagrees with you.
 
Homosexuals living together as man and wife and dressing and acting as the opposite sex is strictly forbidden in Islam.  See the hadiths on homosexuality quoted here: Islam & Homosexuality.
 
Abu Hurayrah said: �The Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the man who wears women�s clothes, and the woman who wears men�s clothes.�  (Reported by Abu Dawud, 4/355; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5071)
 
See these verses in the Quran:
 
"We also sent Lut : He said to his people : "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an 7:80-81
 
"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk." Qur'an 26:165
 
I haven't read the rest of your post as I got bored half way. So as the Quran says to you is your way and to me is mine.
 
There is no such a thing as gay or lesbian marriage in Islam and never will be. Once homosexulaity is rampant there will be no law preventing bestiality or pedophilia and it will be open as pronography is today. There are valid hadiths about our prophet who addressed gays and lesbians while preforming sexual acts as: adulterers. I do not have the references but you may search them in Bukhari & Muslim and others. Here is an excerpt from Islam Online:
 
"Homosexuality, moreover, is an abomination and a grave sin. In Hadith, the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, clarifies the gravity of this abomination by saying: �Allah curses the one who does the actions (homosexual practices) of the people of Lut� repeating it three times; and he said in another Hadith: �If a man comes upon a man then they are both adulterers.� Here, he considered homosexuality tantamount to adultery in relation to the Shari�ah punishments because it is an abomination on the one hand and the definition of adultery applies to it on the other hand."
 
 
Think for a minute if homosexuality was prevalent throught time and in all societies then you wouldn't exist today.
 
�And Allah has made for you from yourselves mates and has made for you from your mates sons and grandsons�� (Holy Quran 16:72).
 
If everyone followed your opinion, Israfil and they accepted homosexuality as the norm then in a very short period of time we would all be extinct, so rather than calling yourself Israfil, instead it would have been far more appropriate if you had chosen the name Israel, the Angel of Death.
 
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Here was my full response to Israfil:
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

I love self-righteous people!
 
Speak for yourself. It seems you are a Non Muslim, Israfil, yet you have chosen a religious user name of a particularly, highly esteemed angel, in Islam, only to be sullied by your character online.
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Iam not persuading you to believe as I! I'm merely making a point to be tolerant to people of this sexual orientation as human beings not accept what they do these are entirely two different things. I obviously and personally do not believe in practicing homosexuality but I can tolerate it ....
 
Be careful, you are retracting and self-contradicting your statements.
None of us said we are intolerant of others. Your friends can live as they like as long as they do not indoctrinate us with *their* "values"
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

So would you say the doctor who is gay is like the person in the time of Lot?
 
Why, what makes you think there were no gay doctors at the time of Prophet Lot? 
 
So would you say the pedophile who gives charity is like a religious person such as Lot or prophet Muhammad pbuh? Would you say the doctor who mass murdered his patients is decent as a believer in God and so you think he will go to paradise without judgment? 
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Again, by simply saying homosexuals are synonymous with evil like those people in the time of lot is an unfair association since the mentalities of that era has changed drastically..
 
Again, by simply saying piety is synonymous with evil, and belief is synonymous with disbelief, that Muslims are synonymous with homosexuals is an unfair association since religious mentalities between believers from those of atheists, pagans, criminals, sexual perverts, pedophiles, rapists, fornicating homosexuals, are drastically different - Just as Moses was different to Pharaoh, David to Goliath, Lot to Sodom & Gomorrah, Jesus was to Herod and Julius Caesar then so are believers different to atheists, pagans, criminals and those who commit sexual crime and obscenities.
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Laws forbid gays and lesbians to get married not nature.  It is obvious if laws permitted gays and lesbians to get married then they would. There are many gays and lesbians who consider themselves "married" even though it is not recognized by law ...
 
How can you prove that 'nature' allows gays and lesbians to get married?
 
1. Do lesbians have the same reproductive systems as males and can gay men get pregnant and give birth to children?
 
Answer: - Obviously and Naturally, not!
 
2. Are the semen and the egg, the different sexual reproduction systems and genitals in males and females, are both systems found in gays or lesbians?
 
Answer: -Scientifically, not!
 
3. Do lesbian females have an erected male organ when they are attracted to another female? Do gay men suffer from PMS or morning sickness during pregnancy?
 
Answer: - Medically and psychologically, not!
 
Therefore, you are naturally and scientifically, medically and psychologically, completely and utterly wrong. God's Laws AND Nature forbid males and females to form gay and lesbian relationships or for them to be married.
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

The above statement is non-sensical...
 
The most nonsensical sentence has to be yours about "nature" allowing homosexuality. To a Non-Muslim who doesn't believe in Allah or the Quran (or studied natural science for that matter) Twist the truth, turn myths into reality, sound nonsensical but blame it on others - you're a typical propagandist! I am sure scientific evidence also must sound nonsensical to you. 
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

so I'm not sure what your point is here in that sentence...
 
It's called common sense - in case you didn't know.
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

Religious postsor religious links are non-scientific I'm sorry. The basis of some religious findings are more inclined towards doctrinal than actual objective observations..
 
What a pity you are wrong again. On what scientific basis do you assert that religious persons are non-scientific? Since when was NARTH non-Scientific? Someone doesn't get a graduation and is called a Doctor, unless they have studied science.
 
Here are the links for you to check again.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

I've done research long enough to know the difference.
 
Oh really? Surely, you don't expect everyone to believe only you are correct? How unscientific.  I am sure that is what they call being arrogant. And no, people are not going to be bullied or pushed around or forced into believing your fantasies and dogma, only because, you say so.  
 
Get your facts right next time - if you don't want to be humiliated any further.
 


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Fareeda, Israfil is not asking you or anyone to believe he is the only correct person, only to give him the benefit of the doubt of what he brings across according to his many research.

I've been in many discussions about homosexuality and its always the same muslims are head strong in not believing in anything else that is presented in front of them, even if its natural and homosexuality spreads across the whole of the animal kingdom for we we humans are a part of.
 
You say this to Israfil "Your friends can live as they like as long as they do not indoctrinate me and others with "their values"" How about the religious folk do the same and not indoctrinate and say you are going to hell! Or God will punish you! 
 
The story of Lot and God destroying the city and that He doesn't like it, well that is God's place not yours or I. This story doesn't mean that we have to be mean or intolerant or hate.
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Angel go and read our posts and study the researched evidence and links I have pasted before attacking. I am not going to repeat myself and I prefer it if you minded your own business and allowed others to speak up for themselves. What some other Muslims may do is not my buisiness and neither is it part of Islam to enforce religion onto others, as no one can compel anyone to follow Islam, see Quran 2:256.



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Assalamu Alaikum,
 
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Since it is General Islamic Matter section, please support your opinions pertaining to Islam with reliable evidence as not doing so may result in misrepresentation of the faith.
 
It is also equally important to comply with the guidelines.
Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
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Thanks to all brothers and sisters, and to Sign Reader and True Light.
 
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Salams,
 
Hamza Yusuf discusses Homosexual Marriages in this interview with Mark Lawson, posted on Youtube.
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The People of Lut (as) And The City which was Turned Upside Down 

The people of Lut rejected (his) warning. We sent against them a violent Tornado with showers of stones, (which destroyed them), except Lut's household: them We delivered by early Dawn,- As a Grace from Us: thus do We reward those who give thanks. And (Lut) did warn them of Our Punishment, but they disputed about the Warning. (Surat al-Qamar: 33-36)

Both Lut (as)and Ibrahim (as) lived at the same time. Lut (as) was sent as a messenger to one of Ibrahim's (as) neighbouring communities. These people, as the Qur�an tells us, practiced a perversion unknown to the world up till then, namely sodomy. When Lut (as) told them to give up this perversion and brought them Allah's warning, they denied him, refused his prophethood, and carried on with their perversion. In the end, these people were destroyed by a dreadful disaster.

The city where Lut (as) resided is referred to as Sodom in the Old Testament. Being situated to the north of the Red Sea, this community is understood to have been destroyed just as it is written in the Qur�an. Archaeological studies reveal that the city is located in the area of the Dead Sea which stretches along the Palestine-Jordan border.

Before examining the remains of this disaster, we shall examine why the people of Lut (as) were punished in this fashion. The Qur�an tells how Lut (as) warned his people and what they said in reply;

The people of Lut rejected the messengers. Behold, their brother Lut said to them: "Will ye not fear (Allah)? I am to you a messenger worthy of all trust. So fear Allah and obey me. No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the lord of the Worlds. Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!"

They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be cast out!"

He said: "I do detest your doings." (Surat ash-Shu�ara: 160-168)

The people of Lut (as) threatened him in response to his inviting them to the right way. His people detested him because of his showing them the right way, and wanted to banish both him and the other believers beside him. In other verses, the event is told as follows:

We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."

And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" (Surat al-A�raf: 80-82)

Lut (as)called his people to an obvious truth and warned them explicitly, but his people did not heed any warnings whatsoever and continued to reject him and to deny the penalty of which he told them.

And (remember) Lut: "Behold" he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway? And practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth." (Surat al-Ankaboot: 28-29)

Receiving the above answer from his people, Lut asked for the help of Allah,

He said: "O my Lord! help Thou me against people who do mischief!" (Surat al-Ankaboot: 30)

"O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" (Surat ash-Shu�ara: 169)

Upon Lut�s (as) prayer, Allah sent two angels in the form of men. These angels visited Ibrahim (as)before coming to Lut (as). Giving Ibrahim (as) the good news that his wife would give birth to an infant, the messengers explained the reason for their being sent: the insolent people of Lut (as) were to be destroyed.

(Ibrahim) said: "And what, O ye Messengers, is your errand (now)?" They said, "We have been sent to a people (deep) in sin; To bring on, on them, (a shower of) stones of clay (brimstone), Marked as from thy Lord for those who trespass beyond bounds." (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 31-34)

Excepting the adherents of Lut: them we are certainly (charged) to save (from harm) - All - Except his wife, who, We have ascertained, will be among those who will lag behind. (Surat al-Hijr: 59-60)

After leaving Ibrahim�s (as) company, the angels, who were sent as messengers, came to Lut (as). Not having recognised the messengers, Lut (as) first became anxious, but then understood that they were sent by Allah:

When Our messengers came to Lut, he was grieved on their account and felt himself powerless (to protect) them. He said: "This is a distressful day." (Surah Hud: 77)

He said: "Ye appear to be uncommon folk." They said: "Yea, we have come to thee to accomplish that of which they doubt. We have brought to thee that which is inevitably due, and assuredly we tell the truth. Then travel by night with thy household, when a portion of the night (yet remains), and do thou bring up the rear: let no one amongst you look back, but pass on whither ye are ordered." And We made known this decree to him, that the last remnants of those (sinners) should be cut off by the morning. (Surat al-Hijr: 62-66)

Meanwhile, his people had learned that Lut (as) had visitors. They did not hesitate to approach these visitors perversely as they had approached others before. They encircled the house. Being afraid for his visitors, Lut (as) addressed his people as follows:

Lut said: "These are my guests: disgrace me not: But fear Allah, and shame me not." (Surat al-Hijr: 68-69)

The people of Lut retorted:

They said: "Did we not forbid thee (to speak) for all and sundry?" (Surat al-Hijr: 70)

Thinking that he and his visitors subjected to evil treatment, Lut said:

"Would that I had power to suppress you or that I could betake myself to some powerful support." (Surah Hud: 80)

His "visitors" reminded him that they were the messengers of Allah and said:

(The Messengers) said: "O Lut! We are Messengers from thy Lord! By no means shall they reach thee! now travel with thy family while yet a part of the night remains, and let not any of you look back: but thy wife (will remain behind): To her will happen what happens to the people. Morning is their time appointed: Is not the morning nigh?" (Surah Hud: 81)

When the perversity of the city people reached its fullest extent, Allah saved Lut (as) by means of the angels. In the morning, his people were destroyed by the disaster of which Lut (as) had informed them in advance.

And they even sought to snatch away his guests from him, but We blinded their eyes. (They heard:) "Now taste ye My Wrath and My Warning." Early on the morrow an abiding Punishment seized them. (Surat al-Qamar: 37-38)

The verses describe the destruction of this people as follows:

But the (mighty) Blast overtook them before morning, And We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay. Behold! in this are Signs for those who by tokens do understand. And the (cities were) right on the high-road. (Surat al-Hijr: 73-76)

When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer,-Marked as from thy Lord: Nor are they ever far from those who do wrong! (Surah Hud: 82-83)

But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)! : Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Surat ash-Shu�ara: 172-175)

When the people were destroyed, only Lut (as) and the believers, who were only as many as one "household", were saved. Lut�s (as) wife did not believe either and she was also destroyed.

We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?
For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"
But we saved him and his family, except his wife: she was of those who legged behind.
And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime! (Surat al-A�raf: 80-84)

Thus, Prophet Lut (as) was saved along with the believers and his family with the exception of his wife. As described in the Old Testament, he emigrated with Ibrahim (as). As for the perverted people, they were destroyed and their dwellings were razed to the ground.

�The Obvious Signs� in the Lake of Lut

One of the verses of Surah Hud clearly states the kind of disaster that befell the people of Lut (as). "When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer". (Surah Hud: 82)


A satellite photograph of the region where the people of Lut (as) lived.

The statement of "turning (the cities) upside down" implies that the region was totally destroyed by a violent earthquake. Accordingly, The Lake of Lut, where the destruction took place, bears "obvious" evidence of such a disaster.

We quote German archaeologist Werner Keller: 

    Together with the base of this mighty fissure, which runs precisely through this area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom and Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their destruction came about through a great earthquake which was probably accompanied by explosions, lightning, issue of natural gas and general conflagration.13

As a matter of fact, the Lake of Lut, or the Dead Sea as it is otherwise known, is located right on the top of an active seismic region, that is, an earthquake zone:

    The base of the dead sea is located with a tectonic rooted downfall. This valley is located in a tension stretching between the Taberiye Lake in the north, and mid of Arabah Valley in the south.14


The Lake of Lut, or Dead Sea as otherwise called.

The event was expressed as "we rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer" in the last part of the verse. This is in all probability meant to be the volcanic explosion that took place on the banks of the Lake of Lut, and because of which the rocks and stones that erupted were in a "baked form". (The same event is related in the verse 173 of Surat ash-Shu�ara as "We rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished (but heeded not)!")

In relation to this subject, Werner Keller writes:  

    The subsidence released volcanic forces that had been lying dormant deep down along the whole length of the fracture. In the upper valley of the Jordan near Bashan there are still towering craters of extinct volcanoes; great stretches of lava and deep layers of basalt have been deposited on the limestone surface. 15

An illustration showing the volcanic eruption and the collapse that followed it, which caused the whole people to disappear.

These lava and basalt layers constitute the greatest evidence that a volcanic explosion and earthquake had once taken place here. The catastrophe depicted in the following expression as "we rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer" in the Qur�an most probably points to this volcanic explosion, and Allah knows best. The expression "When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down" which occurs in the same verse, must be referring to the earthquake which caused volcanoes to erupt over the surface of the earth with devastating impact, and to the fissures and debris brought by it, and only Allah knows the truth of it.

The "obvious signs" conveyed by the Lake of Lut are indeed very interesting. In general, the events which are related in the Qur�an take place in the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula and Egypt. Right in the middle of these lands, is the Lake of Lut. The Lake of Lut, as well as the incidents that have taken place around it, deserves attention geologically. The Lake is approximately 400 metres below the surface of the Mediterranean. Since the deepest point in the Lake is 400 metres, the bottom of the Lake is 800 metres below the surface of the Mediterranean. This is the lowest point on the earth. In other areas which are lower than sea level, the depth is at most 100 metres. Another property of the Lake of Lut is that the salt content of its water is very high, the density being nearly 30%. Because of this, no living organism, such as fish or moss, can survive in this lake. This is why the Lake of Lut is called the "Dead Sea" in Western literature.

 


A distant view of the Lake of Lut

The incident of Lut�s (as)people, which is recounted in the Qur�an, occurred around 1800 BC according to estimates. Based on his archaeological and geological researches, the German researcher Werner Keller noted that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were in fact located in the Siddim Valley which was the region at the furthest and lowest end of the Lake of Lut, and that there were once big and widely inhabited sites in those regions.

The most interesting structural characteristic of the Lake of Lut is evidence showing how the disaster incidence recounted in the Qur�an took place:  

On the eastern shore of the Dead Sea the peninsula of El-Lisan protrudes like a tongue far into the water. El-Lisan means "the tongue" in Arabic. Unseen from the land the ground falls away here under the surface of the water at a prodigious angle, dividing the sea into two parts. To the right of the peninsula the ground slopes sharply down to a depth of 1200 feet. On the left of the peninsula the water remains remarkably shallow. Soundings taken in the last few years established depths of only fifty to sixty feet. That extraordinary shallow part of the Dead Sea, from the peninsula El-Lisan to the southernmost tip, was the Vale of Siddim. 16

Werner Keller noted that this shallow part, which was discovered to have formed subsequently, was the outcome of the aforementioned earthquake and the massive collapse this earthquake had caused. This was the place where Sodom and Gomorrah were situated, that is, where Lut�s (as) people lived.


An overhead view of the mountains around the Lake of Lut.

Once, it was possible to cross this region by walking. However, now, the Vale of Siddim, where Sodom and Gomorrah were once situated, is covered by the flat surface of the lower part of the Dead Sea. The collapse of the base as a result of the dreadful catastrophe that came to pass in the beginning of the second millennium BC, caused salt water from the north to flow into this recently formed cavity and filled the basin with salty water.

The traces of Lut�s (as) people are visible� When one takes a rowing boat across the Lake of Lut to the southernmost point, if the sun is shining in the right direction, one sees something quite fantastic. Some distance from the shore and clearly visible under the surface of the water, there are the outlines of the forests which the extraordinarily high salt content of the Dead Sea preserved. The trunks and roots in the shimmering green water are very ancient. The Siddim valley, where these trees were once in blossom green foliage covered their twigs and branches, was one of the most beautiful locations in the region.


Some of the remains of the city, which had slipped into the lake, were found on the banks of the lake. These remains showed that the people of Lut had quite a high standard of life.

The mechanical aspect of the disaster that befell the people of Lut (as) is revealed by the researches of the geologists. These reveal that the earthquake which destroyed the people of Lut (as) came about as a consequence of a fault line in the earth, along the 190-kilometre distance making up the bed of the River Sheri�at. River Sheri�at makes a fall of 180 metres in total. Both this and the fact that the Lake of Lut is 400 metres below sea level are two important pieces of evidence showing that an enormous geological event once took place here.

The interesting structure of the River of Sheri�at and the Lake of Lut make up only a small part of the crack or split passing from this region of the earth. The condition and length of this crack have only recently been discovered.


The destruction of the people of Lut (as) has inspired many painters. An example is given above.

The fault starts from the outskirts of Mount Taurus, stretches to the southern shores of the Lake of Lut and proceeds over the Arabian desert to the Gulf of Aqaba and continues across the Red Sea, ending up in Africa. Along the length of it, strong volcanic activities are observed. Black basalt and lava exist in the Galilee Mountains in Israel, high plain regions of Jordan, the Gulf of Aqaba and other areas nearby.

All these remains and geographical evidences show that a catastrophic geological event took place in the Lake of Lut. Werner Keller writes:

Together with the base of this mighty fissure, which runs precisely through this area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom and Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their destruction came about through a great earthquake which was probably accompanied by explosions, lightning, issue of natural gas and general conflagration. The subsidence released volcanic forces that had been lying dormant deep down along the whole length of the fracture. In the upper valley of the Jordan near Bashan there are still towering craters of extinct volcanoes; great stretches of lava and deep layers of basalt have been deposited on the limestone surface. 17 

National Geographic makes the following comment:

The mount of Sodom, a barren wasteland, rises sharply above the dead sea. No one has ever found the destroyed cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, but scholars believe that they stood in the Vale of Siddim across from these cliffs. Possibly flood waters of the Dead Sea engulfed them following an earthquake.18


Above is a picture representing the luxury and prosperity of the city of Pompeii before the disaster. 

Pompeii Had a Similar End 

The Qur�an tells us in the following verses that there is no change in Allah�s laws:

They swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner came to them, they would follow his guidance better than any (other) of the Peoples: But when a warner came to them, it has only increased their flight (from righteousness) - On account of their arrogance in the land and their plotting of Evil, but the plotting of Evil will hem in only the authors thereof. Now are they but looking for the way the ancients were dealt with? But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing). (Surat al-Fatir: 42-43)

Yes, "no change will be found in Allah�s way (rules)". Everybody, who stands against His laws and rebels against Him, is subject to the same divine law. Pompeii, the symbol of the degeneration of the Roman Empire, was also involved in sexual perversity. Its end was similar to that of the people of Lut (as).

The destruction of Pompeii came by means of the eruption of the volcano Vesuvius.

The volcano Vesuvius is the symbol of Italy, primarily the city of Naples. Remaining silent for the last two millennia, Vesuvius is named the "Mountain of Warning". It is noteworthy that Vesuvius is known as such. The disaster that befell Sodom and Gomorrah is very similar to the disaster that destroyed Pompeii.


The pictures above are petrified corpses unearthed in excavations made in Pompeii.

 

To the right of Vesuvius lies Naples and to the east lies Pompeii. The lava and ash of a huge volcanic eruption, that happened thousands of years ago, caught the inhabitants of that city. The disaster happened so suddenly that everything in the town was caught in the middle of its everyday life and remains today exactly as it was two millennia ago. It is as if the time had been frozen.

The removal of Pompeii from the face of the earth by such a disaster was not purposeless. The historical record shows that the city was exactly the centre of dissipation and perversity. The city was marked by a rise in prostitution to such an extent that even the number of brothels was not known.

But the lava of Vesuvius wiped the whole city off the map in a single moment. The most interesting aspect of the event is that nobody escaped despite the terrible violence of the eruption of Vesuvius. It is almost like they did not even notice the catastrophe, as if they were charmed. A family eating their meal were petrified right at that moment. Numerous petrified couples were found in the act of intercourse. The most interesting thing is that there were couples of the same sex and couples of young boys and girls. The faces of some of the petrified human corpses unearthed from Pompeii were unharmed. The general expression on those faces was bewilderment.


Other examples of petrified human corpses uncovered among the remains of Pompeii

Here lies the most incomprehensible aspect of the calamity. How did thousands of people wait to be caught by death without seeing and hearing anything?

This aspect of the event shows that the disappearance of Pompeii was similar to the destructive events mentioned in the Qur�an, because the Qur�an particularly points to "sudden annihilation" while relating these events. For example, the "inhabitants of the city" described in Surah Ya-Sin died all at once in a single moment. The situation is told as follows: 

It was no more than a single mighty Blast, and behold! they were (like ashes) quenched and silent. (Surah Ya-Sin: 29)


Some other examples of petrified human corpses uncovered at Pompeii. The picture on the left is a very good example of how instantaneous the disaster was.

In Surat al-Qamar, again the "instantaneous annihilation" is emphasised when the destruction of Thamud is recounted:

For We sent against them a single Mighty Blast, and they became like the dry stubble used by one who pens cattle. (Surat al-Qamar: 31)

The death of the people of Pompeii took place instantaneously as just as the events recounted in the above verses.

Despite all of this, things have not changed much where Pompeii once stood. The districts of Naples where debauchery prevails do not fall short of those licentious districts of Pompeii. The Island of Capri is a base where homosexuals and nudists reside and is represented as a "Homosexual paradise" in tourist commercials. Not only on Capri and in Italy, but in nearly all the world, a similar moral degeneration is at work and people insist on not learning from the awful experiences of past peoples.

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