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peacemaker
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Following article may be useful due to its relevance: A FITNA FILM
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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13 |
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ejdavid
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Shasta'sAunt - You wrote: "I see that you have copied my of your post almost verbatim from AnsweringIslam..."
I have never heard of that site nor used anything from it for my posts. I have been in dialog with Jews, Christians, and Muslims for at least a decade. I make my own posts. So. Is it not true that Muhammed and followers successfully attacked a Meccan Caravan, and that this is THE pivotol event in all of Islam? |
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ejdavid
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Shasta'sAunt
Do you deny Muhammed had critics executed? Several such events are proudly recorded from early times. I am surprised at you if you do not know about them. Do EYE need to cite authoritative sources to devout Muslims. IMHO, Muslims should already know these things. In recent times we don't even need authoritative sources. We know the assasination Van Gho. We know the multitudes of death threats and fatwas eminating from the Muslim world against its critics. People critical of Islam are under 24 Hour armed quard all over Europe. Here in the United States we seem less intimidated by our own population of Muslims. Probably because they have incomes higher then the average American. We have no illusions, however, that some primative Muslim People would use nuclear weapons on us. I sort of wonder what would be the result of such an attack? I think the Muslim world would see what has already been done in Iraq, but with more, shall we say, DRAMA? and many carefully chosen targets would Mushroom clouds over them. |
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ejdavid
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peacemaker
You complain about defimation of Islam. This is a very funny thing. You see, I have been following Arabic and other translation web sites that make fitna seem fit for Kindergarden. Your posturing on such matters is growning thin. We know what sort of propoganda goes on in the Muslim world. We just don't care. Lately, however, we are becoming tired of Muslims who either lie about these things, don't care, or don't know. I even have transcripts from American mosques that would make your hair curl (well, mabe not YOUR hair). My very most favorite is that American Soldiers in Irag have a standing practice to baynette pregnant Muslim women in order to obtain fetus craniums for ash trays. MUSLIMS, yah just gotta love 'em. |
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Sign*Reader
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Let me be the picayune and challenge you on this- No it is not true that the Meccan Caravan was successfully attacked! You are making up your own history, and you will never be able to prove it cuz you rushed to post it without verifying the details and that was absolutely dumb! Shame on you for twisting history I know the event you are talking about you can't get away with posting this! Edited by Sign*Reader |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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minuteman
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For ejdavid: It was not the intent of the Muslims of madinah to attack any one. They were too weak to ask for any trouble. But the prophet was very wise. As soon as he reached Madinah, he met all the leaders there, even the Jews and made pact with them to defend the city in case of any attack. He was expecting attack from the pagans of Makkah. And the pagans were planning to attack as they were sorry that the prophet had escaped alive. That was their crime number one to try to kill some one. Can you not see that please? Be reasonable. You cannot twist the history. The prophet was not sleeping. he had informers who told him that attack from Makkah was imminent. A party of 1000 strong armed men had started from makkah. At the same time, a caravan of laden camel was travelling from Syria to Makkah. That caravan was an easy target for the Muslims. Normally, people would go to attack such easy target and get a lot of booty. But the prophet, under divine guidance, and after consulting his friends, moved out of Madinah with hardly any armour. He had only 313 persons with him. Before that, he even discussed with friends if they liked to remain in the city to protect it or they liked to go out and prevent an attack. That shows his innocence too. The friends advised to go out of city to face the advancing army of the pagans. There was a battle at the field of Badr on 17th Ramadhan of the year 02 Hijrah, that was 13 March 0624 A.D.. The result was a complete downfall of the enemy forces. Please remember that this battle and the victory was forecast (mentioned) in the bible OT. I can present the exact words if required.
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Shasta'sAunt
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ejdavid: You wrote: "Shasta'sAunt - You wrote: "I see that you have copied my of your post almost verbatim from AnsweringIslam..." Yet here is YOUR post where you include the link to answering Islam. You may think that all Muslims are idiots and deceivers, but you are the only one caught in a blatant untruth here.
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ejdavid
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seekshidayath and others. One by one. OK?
Openly condemn the death fatwah against Rusdie, and ALL the others, unequivicably and with your username attached. Then tell me that you do or do not believe American troops bayonette pregnant Muslim women to obtain fetal craniums for ash trays. Real simple. You guys up to it? In my experience Muslims do a ropa-dope. Declairing nothing and blaming every non Muslim in sight. IMHO, I believe Muslims are affraid to condem such Muslims, and for good reason. They just might kill YOU? |
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