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Truth_light24 
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 Posted: 17 March 2008 at 6:52pm |
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In everything that we do is base on intention and only Allah can know that... In every deeds that we do we should always watch out not to commit SHIRK. Shirk is a sin Allah wont forgive unless you repent from it and those committing it and die in that state, Jahannam is his final abode...Quran 4:48
"Verily, All�h forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with All�h in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin." Islam is a moderate religion. The Prophet said: Ibn Mas'ud reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Those who make things hard for themselves will be destroyed." He said it three times. [Muslin] Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The deen is easy. Anyone who makes the deen too hard on himself will find it becomes too much for him. So aim for what is right, follow a middle path, accept the good news of the reward for right action, and seek help [to reach your goal by being constant in worshipping] in the morning, evening and some of the night."[al-Bukhari]
So lets not make it hard on us..Just avoid SHIRK that will lead us to JAHANNAM and make Allah angry and wont have His Mercy on us. Muslim do good deeds purposely to please Allah and please Him we should be.....ameen. Edited by Truth_light24 |
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And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a glaring sin. Quran33:59
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Aminah07
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:14pm |
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Assalamu'Alaikum br's and sr's, Well I'd just like to add that on one of my first trips to Egypt many years ago it just happened to be during the Prophets(pbuh) birthday. In Egypt they do make surgar candy statues for the kids I couldn't really tell of what I was surprised I hadn't expected it but I think it's what you do with your time. Over there everyone works 6 days a week and the kids go to school year round so if the government wants to give everyone a day off and you choose to read Quran and have a nice meal with your family I don't see anything wrong with it...We do the same thing here in the US on Thanksgiving. JazakAllahuKhair |
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dp75
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:29pm |
I did that and the answer I got was he showed me a fork and asked me to provide evidence where in the Quran or Sunnah it says to use this. Of course this makes absolutely no sense since using a fork has nothing to do with ibbadah, neither does technology, bidah(inovations) in technology is okay but no matter how many times I said this to him he continued to tell me everyone does bidah. So you can't get a true explanation or one that even makes sense if you ask because there is no evidence for it so they will come up with anything. Another Imam I asked he started discussing about how the Imams in Mecca and Medina during their khutabahs are talking about slaughtering animals while Muslims all over are dying. So his point is why stop Muslims from doing this. You see no evidence at all when you ask all the replies you will get back will not even be logical accoriding to Islam but yet will fool ignorant Muslims. I specifically asked him if it was okay according to Islam and the question was avoided and this Imam is considered a Scholar.
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dp75
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:06pm |
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I never said that going to the masjid and talking about the life of the Prophet(saaws) is shirk, I said that the idea of birthday celebrations and if you take the time to look at the history comes from shirk. Celebrating birthdays comes from shirk. I have seen some Masjids call this day EID, the Prophet(saaws) said we only have TWO Eids so how can someone now say we have three? It's Bidah, the Prophet(saaws) said all bidah in the deen is in the fire. So just because an act seems good doesn't mean it is good. Can we pray 7 rakahs for Isha instead of 4? It is more prostration and more bowing but no one would say this is okay will they? What does Mawlid mean? I have been told it means birthday, is this true, can anyone confirm this? So if the Masjid is promoting a night of lectures on EID Al-Mawlid Nabi, does this not mean celebrating the birth of the Prophet(saaws)? This should not be encouraged. What should be encouraged is to give lectures monthy or weekly and invite the Muslims community to the Masjid. Or you can do what the Prophet(saaws) actually did and that is give a brief lecture after the salat. Now of course that will only benefit the Muslims that go to the Masjid but like I said have lectures on a monthly or weekly or bi-weekly basis and invite. Don't say once a year will have a lecture on the day we believe the Prophet(saaws) was born. The problem with doing it this day is to say it is his birthday and whenver you go to the Masjids you will hear Imams say this. We should have days throughout the year invite the community to the Masjid not just once a year. Maybe only a few will come but at least those few will continue to hear about what Islam is and insha'Allah Allah will open their heart. Bidah in worship is haram and this is from the Prophet(saaws). If someone can provide evidence from Quran and Sunnah I am all for it but there isn't any. No one can even provide evidence from the Companians(raa) or the scholars after them. I understand it is good to get Muslims into the Masjid and maybe their heart insha'Allah will open up but doing it the wrong way is not the right way. We have to do things according to Islam wether that attracts people to Islam or not it is not our job, our job is to present Islam and that's all. Allah has completed our religion, who are we to add to it? If people want to do this don't say Islam says it's okay or it is a part of the deen because many Imams do that and this is wrong. You are fooling people that have limited knowledge in the deen and it just confuses them.
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imp87
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:56am |
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Seekshidayath: As'Salamu Alaikum, Imp87, as dp75 said we need not dedicate a day for celebating Prophet's B'day. It does n't mean u stop going to mosque or discuss of Prophet Muhammad { sallal lahu alahi wasallam } that day. It all depends of intention. If you intend to listen them to refresh your Imaan and learn from the seerah, then its Ok. Secondly , in such gatherings of Mawlid, most of the people {Pls note most of the people not all } exaggerate our Prophet so it may lead to shirk. Infact masjids are the best places to learn deen. Note: not most of the people do that! most go there to learn and no not commit the shirk you are talking about. I do not care what a handful of people do, stop hand picking a few wrongers and blaming every act that you can not accept. And read my post properly, I did not say we dedicate a day like that (a Bday), but I am asking what is wrong with going to it, just because it is, or happens to fall on that so called day. As you said there is nothing wrong to go mosque to learn! on these so called days. If any of you are concerned about it so much, then ask your local imams, but actually you all seem to know the intentions of every man and why they go to these meetings, so go to your mosques, make a day there where you can talk about prophets s.a.w life without �committing shirk�, you might actually divert people from real �shirk� then. I hope you all realize one day that you are taking peoples sins upon yourselves by saying people commit shirk and harram by generalizing like some are doing here. And please, the average Muslims knows the difference between Allah c.c and our Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. This is like one of the madhab topics, never goes anywhere, so have fun im out. |
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poga
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:32am |
thank you seek for very good post it is the reason i say SUFISWINES it is they who turned HALAL into HARAM it is very simple what is HARAM it is HARAM everyday and what is HARAM and what is HALAL is clear in SHARIAH therefore visiting graves or celebrating birthday is not HARAM it will become HARAM like any other day if one commits HARAM act it is this SUFISWINES turned our shrines into temples and KHARIJI who thinks every grave is temple |
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seekshidayath
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:31am |
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Here at sub-continents , it is a practice that on this day, they open up doors for people to view the hair of Prophet sallal lahu alaihi wa sallam or we call it Muay Mubarak, and people start up commiting shirk there. I mean they touch the box and make duas and commit all other wrong acts. They exaggerate Prophet saying that he the Giver and He is everything. Thus, it opens up doors of shirk . Anyways, we can go that day like any other day to the Masjids to learn deen and refresh our imaan. |
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath
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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:19am |
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As'Salamu Alaikum, Imp87, as dp75 said we need not dedicate a day for celebating Prophet's B'day. It does n't mean u stop going to mosque or discuss of Prophet Muhammad { sallal lahu alahi wasallam } that day. It all depends of intention. If you intend to listen them to refresh your Imaan and learn from the seerah, then its Ok. Secondly , in such gatherings of Mawlid, most of the people {Pls note most of the people not all } exaggerate our Prophet so it may lead to shirk. Infact masjids are the best places to learn deen. |
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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but it looked like the kids enjoyed them. There was a parade in the cities we were further out and our family just got together read Quran and had a nice meal along with our regular daily events. 
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