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Originally posted by alabdalfakeer alabdalfakeer wrote:

Assalamu Alykom Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakato

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It's a well known fact for every muslim who raeds the quran that Allah mentioned Jinn more than once,and that Jinn were mentioned in the Sunnah as well,and bottom line they do exist and moreover they can interfere with our lifes ,they can even cause a lot of sicknesses but ofcourse after the permission of Allah ,and here is the thing .....Yes Jinn and demonic possession and Magic do exist but they don't effect the human being unless God permit that,and God let that effect as a test for the faith of the Muslim and see what type of believer the Muslim is.

Always remmember that Quraan and Sunnah are the only & biggest fortresses that a Muslim  can shelter within, & anything other than that will  lead to the total misleading of the muslim and will cause the total destruction of his/her life and fate.

For any more information or any support please contact me & don't forget me in your prayers.

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Alabd Alfakeer

 

What your saying is true, however, the last prophet (PBUH) was also afflicted with magic by a jew if you can recall. I believe I read something previously that informed me that there were a few surahs in the Qur'an that were revealed to the last prophet (PBUH) specifically for magic. So this is a test for me maybe, i do not know for sure, what I do know is that i must keep strong faith and Iman and also keep continuing to seek solutions that can defuse my situation.

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Assalamu Alykom Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakato

Dear brothers & sisters,

It's a well known fact for every muslim who raeds the quran that Allah mentioned Jinn more than once,and that Jinn were mentioned in the Sunnah as well,and bottom line they do exist and moreover they can interfere with our lifes ,they can even cause a lot of sicknesses but ofcourse after the permission of Allah ,and here is the thing .....Yes Jinn and demonic possession and Magic do exist but they don't effect the human being unless God permit that,and God let that effect as a test for the faith of the Muslim and see what type of believer the Muslim is.

Always remmember that Quraan and Sunnah are the only & biggest fortresses that a Muslim  can shelter within, & anything other than that will  lead to the total misleading of the muslim and will cause the total destruction of his/her life and fate.

For any more information or any support please contact me & don't forget me in your prayers.

Your Brother

Alabd Alfakeer

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so what your saying is basically stay on the true path, stay islamically lawful, have strengthen Iman, and do not look for materialistic things and i'll be cured without even knowing it? Mash'allah I believe I already do these things, and I am trying harder everyday to strengthen my Iman. About the purifying food exactly what do you mean here? I don't eat haram food or pork or anything like that.
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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

There are adifferent types of jinn, each person on this earth has a companion from among the shaytan attached to him this is by the leave of allah and we can not get rid of him, this type is not what poseses people as in your case there manily there for waswasa.

if you listen to the lectures i gave a link to you will find out about other types and what they do, basicaly they are around us and interact with us in many of our actions. They wait for opertunaties to open up for them and they take advantage and try to turn a uncomfertable situation into something worse.

Eg is you may get upset over something or with someone but you are in control the shaytan sees this desire/anger in you and comes and tries to make it worse by making you think certain things.

Shaytan can not read our thoughts but they do know our desires, it is this element in us which is the doorway if you like for them to manipulate us how they like, this is the opertunaty they look for and take advantage of.

the only way to free our selves from them is to control our base desires through tzkiyah an nafs or taharah an anfs, which basicaly means to cleans our self of bad qualities and replace them with good qualities. This closes the door for them on manipulating us, as we draw closer to allah step by step shaytan has lesser and lesser opertunaties to attack us.

This is a main aspect of why we pray, fast, pay zakkat go on hajj. its so we are not attached to what is in this world as atachment is what causes desire for something which is what shaytan wants.

You do not just pray, pay zakkat, fast go on hajj and out of nothing but simple actions with out a purpose or intention cure your self or strengthen your inner self against shaytan you have to have the right intention and for that you need knowledge of what the purpose of these 5 things are.

I strongly recomend you read Imam al Ghazali's Inner dimensions of Islamic worship its a small book whcih deals with why we pray, fast, pay zakkat, go on hajj. Becouse Allah comanded us is not a correct answer and is the reality of why our ummah has sunk to the depths we are in today.

we are instructed to perform them but an action without intention is not worth much, Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said Everything is according to intention and Allah gives according to your intention. Imam Bukhari began his sahih with this very hadith becouse of its importance and its implication in every action in our life.

Volume 1, Book 1, Number 1:

Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So whoever emigrated for worldly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration was for what he emigrated for."

desire and waswasa are both in the heart which is why The Prophet said: "Lo! Verily, there is in the body a small piece of flesh; if it is good the whole body is good and if it is corrupted the whole body is corrupted; lo! it is the heart . "

"Verily, Allah looks not at your bodies nor at your faces but He looks at your hearts."

Allah has placed at the end of his book a reminder for us about shaytan and an instuction for us in order to overcome him.

Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,
The King of mankind,
The God of mankind,
From the evil of the sneaking whisperer,
Who whispereth in the hearts of mankind,
Of the jinn and of mankind.


A Muslim has to become a mo'min to be truly protected from shaytan, but it is a step by step journey which is how allah raised the first muslim community to be the best ummah ever to come. Before the Hijrah it was all about Aqeedah and tazkiyah an nafs (purification of the self) as no fighting was permited at that time when they were ready they were alowed to migrat.

"When a Mo'min remains consistent in his behaviour and prayers, he is raised by Allah to a higher level of Eman (Faith) which is Ehsan. A person at the stage of Ehsan is called Mohsin. According to a Qur'anic verse in Surah Al-Baqaraha, a person who completely submits him/herself and turns his / her face only towards Allah he /she is Mohsin. According to a Hadith of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) a person at the stage of Ehsan offers his/her prayers in such a state as if he/she is seeing the Creator."

Islam is a Deen (way of life) if one aspect is lacking it will effect other aspects, rasul allah said shaytan flows through the body like blood flows through your veins when a person consumes haram food the effect is like inviting shaytan to come in.

He (Allah bless him & give him peace) mentioned a man having journeyed far, is dishevelled and dusty and who spreads out his hands to the sky (saying): O Lord! O Lord! - While his food is Haram, his drink is Haram, his clothing is Haram, and his nourishment is Haram, so how can his dua be answered! (Sahih Muslim)

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to the Companion Sa�d:

O Sa�d! Purify your food, your supplication will be accepted. By the one in whose hand lays the life of Muhammad, verily a servant places a morsel of Haram in his stomach (and as a result) forty days of worship will not be accepted from him.� (Recorded by Imam Tabrani)

In another narration, it is narrated that an angel at Bayt al-Maqdis proclaims every day and night: �Whosoever consumes unlawful (haram) food, Allah Most High will not accept his obligatory (fard) and voluntary worship.� (See: al-Kaba�ir of Imam Dhahabi)

it is the same for anyother haram action such as riba or alcohol.

�If a taker of interest or the one who earns unlawful wealth was to give one a gift or invite one to his house for food, it will not be permitted to accept his gift or eat at his house if most of what he earns is unlawful, unless he informs one that it was acquired through lawful wealth which he gained through inheritance or by taking a loan. And if most of his earnings are Halal, there is nothing wrong in accepting his gift or eating at his house.� (al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya, 5/343)

Inner Dimension of Zakat
Excerpts from Ghazali's Inner Dimension of Islamic Worship


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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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I do believe in the existance of the Jinn. Ofcourse I wouldn't be a Muslim if I didn't believe in them. I was attacked by a Jinn in 1995 when i was 17 years old, now i'm 27 , 10 years later, and i have probably completed about 75% exorcism, going through many healing processes and methods. I think one effective way was when I had cupping done by this one exorcist. I still remain classified as a borderline paranoid schizo these days. I basically have social phobia. I don't hear voices or anything like that but I am still going to college to try to finish up some technical degree. I am taking some sedative medication like xanax (though i would rather not use this) to get me past the social interactions of people in class but this aint no cure by any means and it's as if your inside of a bottle looking out. The Jinn has manifested itself into my body somehow but I haven't figured out a way to completely expel it. I'm not sure if this is a magical spell, evil eye, charm with knotted thrown somewhere and buried, or a love attraction by a female Jinn, but I do know that it is one of the above. I can feel the heaviness of the Jinn in me, when i walk around, there's a weigh down feeling, as if i'm carrying extra baggage on me when i'm not, I overheard the exorcist say one time that when one of his patients came to him and he exorcised him and the patient claimed he felt light like a feather. Sounds very freaky and can be a chilling experience, but man i need to get rid of this whatever it is thing off of me. I've taken ajwa dates before, read ayatul kursi,  and surah bakhra, performed hajj, but thus far no complete expulsion... still trying to figure this out, anyone have any suggestions? i live in chicago, USA
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Bismillah,

Do Jinn have certain doorways that make it easier for them to harm people?  Why would there be certain places, like Maryland, for example, where a person who has been affected by Jinn, is more likely to be attacked?  What a horrible ruse to get someone to stay away from a place to say that this place is dangerous for you because the Jinn have reached you there and will have more power over you there.  Has anyone heard of these "exorcists"?

I think that prayer should protect us from evil, and that shysters and control freaks use the "Science of Jinns" to misdirect people.

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Originally posted by rami rami wrote:

Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

assalamu alaikum

Are you a convert to Islam?

Jinns have the ability to take on almost any form they wish including humans in every aspect but in there natural state they are not physical.

They are always with us and around us in there spiritual form (like holywood imagines Ghosts, similar to the movie Ghost) but they can interact with us as they please both on our level of existance and theres, they are free to move in both ie spiritualy and physicaly.

they have there own races (like chinese american but they differer in shape and ability from race to race) and creatures (like our animals) in there spiritual world which is a level of existance above ours as we are in the lowest of the low as allah said to adam. Think of it in terms of frequencies they are on a higher frequency than us.

I can cite ahadith and insha allah when i have time i will.




Peace

Yes i reverted to God's perfect system 5 years ago, from paganism.

Im all with you on this frequence stuff. But im pretty sure they are established in our plane aswell. To be perfectly honest i belive they are currently running our world, in charge (not possesed) of individuals we belive to be leaders. they are not leaders, they are misleaders.

Look into jesuits, the truth about the vatican and the origins  of freemasonry, if you want to understand where im comming from with this.

Both in the west and at "home" ...the saudis (the saudi tribe, not the population of saudi arabia)are the most diabolical clan we ever saw, they are nothing but evil. And currently in charge of our Quran translations. And that makes me feel very uneasy, as i know for a fact that they are from a "jewish" tribe that where not, never was and never will be monotheists. They worship jinn and always have, under various names.

As for hadith, well bro, we differ a bit on this. I do not accept that the hadith has any authority. Logic alone should make this obvious, but i have done my homework and can prove that many of the storys ascribed to the prophet (saws) are rooted in paganism and sunworship. I know,,,i was heavily in to this stuff. astrotheology.

The Quran however, is something completely different. I cried and still cry when i read it. It send chills down my spine, and amazes me n every single way, when you realise...this book is unique. The storys look like other relegious story's but are in fact AMAZINGLY different.
Still concepts and ideas from other relgions snuk its way in through haidth. But i guess thats a completely other debate.

As for Jinn. They are in charge, and the sooner we realise that we are in fact dealing with a physical enemy whoms butt we can give a good whopping if we find them the better. Im well aware that they can do astral projection and leave this plane, some of the verses i posted, hints this.

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