7 thunders of the Book of Revelation

REVELATION 12

The universal Prophet and The persecution of the Church.

  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; A WOMAN clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. (Rev.12:1-2)

  As you can see, according to some Christian�s Scholars the �woman� represents the church and some says the �woman� represents the Jewish nation.

  In truth� it represents the �church� and not the �Jewish nation�.

    The saints are the believers and they came from �her and she� which is referring to the �church� when the church is well establish for the coming of the Messiah: Rev.19:7-8 �Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and �his wife� hath made herself ready. And to �her� was granted that �she� should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saint.�

  And the church was divided in to two groups or branches:   Rev.12:14�And to the woman were given �two wings�.  And Rev.11:4-5 These are the �two olive trees�, and �two candlestick� standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth (used the word of God), and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

  And candlesticks represent churches: Rev. 1:20�the seven CANDLESTICKS which thou sawest ARE SEVEN CHURCHES.

   Also, woman represented a great city: �And the �woman� which thou saws is that �great city��� (Rev.17:18)

 The Church here is �Islam� and the �two wings or the two olive trees and two candlestick� is the two branches from the same church�the two large groups of Muslims.

(I have just this link of where is the Church of Jesus' (S): Who Jesus (pbuh) said he is from the Bible)

  Abu Hurayrah said, �The Prophet {S} said, �The Hour will not come until the following events have come to pass: �two large groups will fight one another�, and there will be many casualties; they will �both� be following the �same religious teaching�� Knowledge will disappear, earthquake will increase, time will pass quickly, affliction will appear, and Harj (i.e. killing) will increase. Wealth will increase�People will compete in constructing high building�the sun will rise from the west; When it rises and people see it, the will believe, but, �no good will it do a soul to believe then, if he believed not before nor earned righteousness through its faith�(al-An am 6:158; Bukhari, kitab al-Fitan,9/74)

  Crown of twelve stars: as for Ishmael�twelve prince shall he beget; I will make him a great nation. (Gen.17:20)

  (Rev.12:5) And she (the woman which is the church) brought forth a �MAN CHILD�, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

   Man child who was to rule all nations: He is the universal Prophet who brought the universal book which I have explained in Rev.10 and 14:6-7. After he brought the universal Book he died and caught up unto God and to his throne. It is not Jesus (pbuh) as the Christian�s Scholars promoting. On the contrary when Jesus (pbuh) comes, Rev.19:19-20 says: �the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered to make war against him�and his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet �these both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.�  Not caught up unto God.   

  And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horn, and seven crowns upon his heads. (Rev.12:3) 

  The great red dragon: It is the Pagan Empire, the enemy of the church which is the sixth king: �And there are seven kings: �five are fallen�, and �one is (the Pagan Empire)�, and the other (Modern day Pagan Empire) is not yet come.� (Rev.17:10)

  At the time of this prophesies Rev.17:10 �five Empire has fallen� and �one exists at the time of this prophesy (The Pagan Empire)� and the other (Modern day Pagan Empire) is yet to come. The Pagans wage war against the Roman Christian (people of the Book) and defeated them, then Allah revealed to Muhammad (pbuh) Qur�an.30:2-4.

  The Romans have been defeated. In the nearest land Syria Iraq Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these events) is only with Allah, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that day, the believers (i.e. Muslims) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allah to the Romans against the Persians). (N.Q.30:2-4)

  Then the Roman Christian (the people of the Book) under Heracles defeated the Persian Empire in March 628. After which the Romans reject the Message of the Qur�an, then Allah remove them from the light and place them into darkness, and then there were consume by Islam in 638 (Rapid expansion of Islam). Islam took Heracles by surprise: Survival, 565�717.

I�ve added in brackets to explain:

  And the woman (the church that Great City) fled into the wilderness [of Paran (Arabia) Gen.21:21], where she hath a place prepared of God, that they (Pilgrims) should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev.12:6)

   After the Romans were defeated by the Muslims, there emerges a �new� Christianity: Pope Gregory the Great (590-604), he converted the Anglo-Saxon invaders of Great Britain to his new form of Christianity (Pagan Christianity) which later known as the Crusaders  [the seventh king (Empire)] then evolve in the west as the eight king (Modern day Pagan�s Empire) and he will go into eternal damnation. Rev.17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

   Rev. 6:7-8 And when he had open the forth seal�a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him, And power was given unto him over the forth part of the earth (New world: the west), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. (See �The seven Seals�)

   �the devil (Iblis) and Satan (Jinn), which deceive the whole world: he was cast out into the earth� (Rev.12:9)

  �Now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and power (true teaching) of his Christ (Anointed)� (Rev.12:10)  

 �Salvation� comes when the man child (the universal Prophet) who was to rule all nations with the rod of iron, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and power (true teaching) of his Christ (Anointed). (More on that I just add this link: The Crufiction and Salvation!)

  Habakkuk tells us who will bring salvation, he said: ��at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear. Thou didst tresh the heathen in anger. Thou (the Holy One from Mount Paran)  wentest forth for Salvation of thy people, even Salvation for the ANOINTED [Messiah Jesus (pbuh): his second coming to establish Islam];� (Habk.3:11-13) HABAKKUK 3:3-16

  None of the Israelites, including Jesus, had anything to do with Paran. Hagar, with her son Ishmael, wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba, who afterwards dwelt in the wilderness of Paran (Genesis 21:21) And he [Ishmael (pbuh)] dwelt in the wilderness of Paran (Arabia: Makkah).

  Jesus (pbuh) said: �The kingdom God shall be taken from you (Jews), and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.� (Matt.21:43)

 �by the fruit ye shall knew them. (Matt.7:20)

  Blood of lamb: Can we destroy the Pagan Empire with blood? No! We have to use the word of the universal Book which dictates how to destroy them, �by the word of their testimony; and they (Muslim) love not their lives unto the death.� (Rev.12:11). (Now come Salvation)

  The time of the Devil is short: �Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. (Rev.12:12)

  And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman (the church that great city) which brought forth the man child (the universal Prophet). (Rev.12:13)

  The �Crusaders (Global FreeMasonry.)� led by Pope Urban II in 1095, he manage to mobilize France England Germany and Italy to persecute the woman (the church that great city).

  In Rev.12:14 it said: �And to the �woman� (the church that great city) were given �two wings� (Which is the two church)�that she might fly into the wilderness [of Paran, Gen.21:21], into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent (The Crusaders). (Rev.12:14)

  And the serpent (Crusaders) cast out of his mouth water (water represent people, See Rev.17:15. these are Missionary) as a flood after the woman (the church that great city), that he might cause her to be carried (convert) away of the flood (by Missionaries). (Rev.12:15) 

  And the (wealth of the) earth helped the woman (the church that great city), and the (wealth of the) earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood (Missionaries) which the dragon (Crusaders) cast out of his mouth. (Rev.12:16)

  The Missionaries were swallowed up by the wealth of the earth, they seek after material gains.

  And the dragon (Crusaders) was wroth (angry) with the woman (the church that great city), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God (universal message: the Qur�an), and the testimony (true teaching) of Jesus Christ. (Rev.12:17)

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REVELATION 17

  It is mentioned in the book of Rev.2:9 �I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the �blasphemy� of them �which say they are Jews�, and are not, but are the �synagogue (Church) of Satan.�

And in Rev3:9 �Behold, I will make them of the �synagogue of Satan,� which say they are Jews, and are not, �but do lie;� behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.� And I have an explanation on this link: Who are those fake Jews (Rev.2:9, 3:9)?

  However, as we understand the �fake Jews� was described as the �CHURCH OF SATAN�.  Now watch the connection with THE FALSE CHURCH AND BEAST 666

It is mentioned in  (Rev.17:3) �And I saw a WOMAN sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

  I�ve established in Rev.12 that the �woman� mentioned their represents the �church� and the �woman� also represents a great city. Rev.17:18 �And the woman�is that Great City, which reigneth over the kings of the earth...�  But only this time the woman (the church that great city) is described as a �Great Whore� in �Rev.17:1�

  Rev.17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the �great whore� that sitteth upon many waters:

  Rev.17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

  Rev.17: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

  Rev.17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a �woman� sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of �names of blasphemy�, having seven heads and ten horns.

  Rev.17:4 And the � woman� was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

  She is one that is married and has been false to her husband�s bed. In other words, the �church� is carrying the scripture but �false� to the true teaching of God and she sit on the scarlet coloured BEAST, �full of blasphemy�, having seven head and ten horn.

  She is described as: �MISTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.�(Rev.17:5)

 And the angel said: �And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountain, on which the �woman� (false church that great city) sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; but when he cometh, he must continue a short space.� (Rev.17:9-10)

 The seven head are seven Great City, five has fallen and one exist (the Pagan Empire) at the time when this prophesy was revealed and the other is yet to come (Modern day Pagan Empire). The Pagans wage war against the Romans Christians (people of the Book) and defeat them, then Allah revealed to Muhamed (pubh) Q.30:2-4.

  The Romans have been defeated. In the nearest land Syria Iraq Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these event) is only with Allah, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that day, the believers (Muslim) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allah to the Romans against the Persian). (N.Q.30:2-4)

  At the time of this prophesies Rev.17:10 �five Empire has fallen� and �one exists at the time of this prophesy (The Pagan Empire)� and the other (Modern day Pagan Empire) was yet to come. The Pagans wage war against the Roman Christian (people of the Book) and defeated them. Then the Roman Christian (the people of the Book) under Heracles defeated the Persian Empire in March 628. After which the Romans reject the Message of the Qur�an, then Allah remove them from the light and place them into darkness, and then there were consume by Islam in 638 (Rapid expansion of Islam). Islam took Heracles by surprise: Survival, 565�717.

   After the Romans were defeated by the Muslims, there emerges a �new� Christianity: Pope Gregory the Great (590-604), he converted the Anglo-Saxon invaders of Great Britain to his new form of Christianity (Pagan Christianity) which later known as the Crusaders  [the seventh king (Empire)] then evolve in the west as the eight king (Modern day Pagan�s Empire) and he will go into eternal damnation. Rev.17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

  Rev. 6:7-8  And when he had open the forth seal�a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him, And power was given unto him over the �forth part� of the earth (New world: the west ), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

  And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev.17:11)

  "Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the � man of lawlessness� is revealed, the man doomed to destruction" (2 Thess. 2:3 NLT).

 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ( 2 Thess2:4 KJV)

  And the ten horn which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet, but received power as king one hour with the beast. (Rev.17:12)

  And the angel poured out his vail upon the great river of Euphrates; and the water (people: Rev.17:15) thereof dried up (Iran  and Iraq  war), that the way of the (ten) kings of the East might be prepared. (Rev.16:12)

 The Dajjal (Anti Christ: the false teaching of Christ, false Church) has taken your place among your off spring (Iraq) so they will throw whatever is in their hand and go forward, sending TEN HORSEMEN as a scouting party. The Prophet (pubh) said: �I know their names, and the names of their father and the colour of their horses. They will be the BEST horsemen on the FACE of the EARTH on that day.� (Ahmad, Musnad, 1/384, 38; Muslim, Kitab al Fitan, 8/177,178)

  And the ten horns (ten kings) which thou sawest upon the beast (Pagan Empire: world government), these shall hate the whore (false church that great city), and make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. (Rev.17:16)

  �indeed he {Dajjal} is in the Syrian sea or the Yemen  sea. No on the contrary, he is in the east, he is in the east, he is in the east and He (pbuh) pointed to the east. (Bukhari, Kitab al Fitan, 9/75)

 �He will appear on the way between Syria and Iraq � (Muslim: Kitab al Fitan wa Ashrat al �Sa�ah, 8/196-199)

   The Dajjal [Anti Christ: false teaching of Christ (pbuh)] will wage war from the east (Afghanistan) then reside in the Syrian and Yemen sea (Aircraft carrier).

  REVELATION 13 BEAST 666

  (Rev.13:1) And I (John) stood upon the sand of the sea (seaside), and saw a BEAST rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horn�and upon his head the name of blasphemy.

   He will wage war from the sea: Aircraft carrier.

  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name (Allah), and his tabernacle (Islam and its law), and them that dwell in heaven. (Rev.13:6)

  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Rev.13:7)

  The question is who is ruling the world now (having power over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations), invading country and dropping bomb at will in them without permission? I know the �West� and also �Israel� dropped �bombs� on Saddam�s nuclear site in the past and other Muslims countries, Lebanon and Syria what they did to them the other day. US: Vets Break Silence on War Crimes

  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship (obeyed) him� (Rev.13:8)

  And the beast (Modern day Pagan Empire) which I saw was like unto a leopard (camouflage), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (his military strength), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (when he speak the world will afraid): and the dragon (the seventh king: the Crusaders: British Empire, See exp. of Rev.12) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. (Rev.13:2)

 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev.17:11)

 �and all the world wondered after the beast. (Rev.13:3)

 And there was given unto him a mouth (media) speaking great things and �blasphemies�; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev.13:5)

  He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and faith of the saints. (Rev.13:10)

 And beheld another beast (Zionist movement: The fake Jews: Rev.2:9 ��I know the �blasphemy� of them �which say they are Jews�, and are not, but are the �synagogue (Church) of Satan.�) coming up out of the earth;

and he had two horns like a lamb (Zionist Judaism and Zionist Christianity: American Christian Fundamentalist Leader Calls For Global War),

and he spake as a dragon ( Crusaders: claming the holy land). And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (Modern Day Pagan Empire) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship (obeyed) the first beast (M.D.P.E.)� (Rev.13:11-12)

  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire (missile: 1967 LINK) come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles (technology) which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image (W.T.C) to the beast� (Rev.13:13-14)

And there was given unto him a mouth (media) speaking great things and �blasphemies�; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (Rev.13:5)

1967 + 42 years will take them into the year 2009 they will rein, and then they will fall.

And it mentioned in Rev.12:12 ��Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.� (Until 2009)

  And he had power to give life (business and trade) unto the image (W.T.C.) of the beast (modern day Pagan Empire: the world Government), that the image (W.T.C.) of the beast should both (the traders and the world government) speak, and cause that many as would not worship (trade with) the image (W.T.C.) of the beast should be killed. (Rev.13:15)

   And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to received a mark (credit card) in their right hand, or in their forehead (identification: Social Security Number): And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark (credit card or Social Security Number), or the name (their kind) of the beast, or the number of his name. (Rev.13:16-1

 The Dajjal (Anti Christ) will be a young man, with curly hair, and one eye floating.

 Metaphorically: one eye floating:  eye in the sky: G.P.S, x-ray vision spy satellite. Catch this link: Military Use of Unmanned Aircraft Soars.

  We asked, �O Messenger of Allah how quickly will he walk upon the earth?� He (pbuh) said, �Like a cloud driven by wind.�

   Metaphorically: cloud driven by wind: Aircraft to move him from one place to another.

  He will issue a command to the sky, and it will rain. (Through technology)

 He will come to the people and call them (to a false religion: Christianity)

 At that time Allah will revealed to Jesus (pbuh): �I have brought forth some of my servant whom no one will able to fight Take my servants safely to al-Tur� (See �ULUM AL-QUR�AN P.73 for al Tur) (Muslim: kitab al-Fitan wa Ashrat al Sa�ah, 8/196-199)

 The messenger (pbuh) could not have explained to the Companion about modern technology examples: Aircraft, G.P.S., Unmanned Aircraft and aircraft carrier in the Syrian sea. 

 And the woman (false church)�is that Great City, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Rev.17:18)

Which Great City is �reigning� over the Kings of the earth at present?

  These (ten kings) have one mind (believe) and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall over come them: for he is Lord of Lord, and king of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen and faithful. (Rev.17:13-14)

  Lord of Lords is used metaphorically to indicate power. For example, Paul referred to the devil a �god� in 2nd Corinthians 4:4 �in their case the �god� of this world had blind the minds of the unbelievers��

And Lord said unto Moses, see I made thee a �god� to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy Prophet. (Exodus 7:1)

 The Lamb would not win the war, he shall overcome them.

 For God hath put in their heart to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. (Rev.17:17).

 The Dajjal (Anti Christ: the false teaching of Christ, false Church) has taken your place among your off spring (Iraq) so they will throw whatever is in their hand and go forward, sending TEN HORSEMEN as a scouting party. The Prophet (pubh) said: �I know their names, and the names of their father and the colour of their horses. They will be the BEST horsemen on the FACE of the EARTH on that day.� (Ahmad, Musnad, 1/384, 38; Muslim, Kitab al Fitan, 8/177,178)

 And the ten horns (ten kings from the east) which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore (false church that great city), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire, (Rev.17:16)

TNC.

Angel wrote: Hi TNC, so sorry I haven't been back to this thread, I've had some things to do and had a sore shoulder, still a little bit tender but am pretty much doing stuff again. I was wondering if you can stop for a moment so I can catch up  I did print of the early info and now there's more to read  which I also printed so I can read off screen and on the train. There is some thoughts I would like to convey.

Peace to Angel, I did post what you ask for but after I realize you were not on for a while I decided to just send the message across for any to read.

However, I will stop until you can catch up. waiting your reply!

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I have found it, you have to read to believe! Coming of the Antichrist to power:

�YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT HIS DEED�.

 The Prophet (S)  said:  ��Someone will cry, �O Muslims! The Dajjal is in your country, with your families�, and the people will leave the wealth. Anyone who takes notice will regret it and anyone who ignores it will regret it. The will ask, �Who shouted� but they will not know who he is. They will say, �Send a vanguard to Ilya. If the Dajjal has appeared, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT HIS DEED.� So the will go and see, and if they see that every thing is normal, they will say, �No-one would give a shout like that for no reason, so let us go together and to Ilya.� If we find the Dajjal there we will fight him together, until Allah decides between us and him. If we do not find the Dajjal, we will go back to our country and families. (Al-Haythami, Majma al-Fitan, 8-176)

"Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the � man of lawlessness� is revealed, the man doomed to destruction" (2 Thess. 2:3 NLT).

 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped [Allah (S) and Islam]; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ( 2 Thess2:4 KJV)

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How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State

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