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Sawtul Khilafah
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Of course he does, in fact he is from a royal bloodline and is related to both Bush and Cheney (this is a fact, research it).
Please watch the videos I posted :
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Wow, that looks like it's been directly copied and pasted from Freemason websites. When Freemasons are asked about the Illuminai, they respond by saying... exactly what Angela said, really! Those who deny the Illuminati deny the most obvious facts and even much of history. George Washington the first President of the United States himself warned that the Illuminati were controling the Democrats/liberals (Obama is a democrat, but of course today they control both parties). George Washington was himself a Freemason but at that time Freemasonry wasnt completely infiltrated by the Illuminati. According to Professor Robison Illuminati was infiltrating Freemasonry during the 18th century but there were some lodges that had not yet been infiltrated but that was nearly 300 years ago so Im guessing now they have taken over completely. After advancing a number of degrees (number depends on lodge) the Freemason becomes an Illuminati. |
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layalee
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lol--- Well Angela to be honest I don't know if the illuminati truly exist or not, I have read throughout the years supporting reasons why they may in fact really exist though... But, to say they DON'T exist--- Do you have any proof??? Do you have a supporting theory, even if you can't provide solid proof?? |
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Angel
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I believe the illuminati and Freemasons exists, whether there is anyone left in the illuminati I don't know, but definitely in freemason. The orgins of the illuminati is in Barvaria, some people have taken it to mean controlling the world's governments and world events.
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Sawtul Khilafah
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Well the Freemasons definitely exist, I mean they arent even secret (although they do have secrets) and their lodges are all over the place. The Illuminati did exist in Baveria but "official history" says that they disappeared after their secrets were exposed by the Government of Baveria. In reality they went underground because after their plans were exposed they couldnt continue as they were. The proof of this, as I already stated, is that George Washington warned that the Illuminati are secretly trying to take over the United States. There is of course more evidence but this I think is a good example. Edited by Sawtul Khilafah |
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Duende
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This is one of the few times I've seen Sawtul almost participating in a
debate, rather than impose upon us his TRUTH. Anyway, you can dance around your pet theories until the cows come home (sacred or sacrificial) the truth few people can accept is that it matters not an iota who wins the presidency, since this is merely a figurehead job. Does anybody seriously think the President of the United States actually dynamically dishes out orders and gets things done? has anybody checked how many advisors and assistants the Presidential post is graced with? Have a check, and just notice one or two things; Are they members of the Council on Foreign relations? (Obama and Clinton- check) Who are their current advisors? (Even now, during preps, they are members of previous administrations, invariably members of the Council on Foreign Relations who held senior and significant posts.) A good example of how dangerously powerful one of these figures can be is the quaint, pleasant figure of Henry Kissinger. And today, Zbigniew Brzezinski advises Obama and his team. Brzezinski calmly encouraged Carter to give the USSR its own Vietnam, by arming and funding the pre- Taliban mujahedeen in Afghanistan... Madelein Albright advises Clinton, along with Richard Holbrooke... The key to understanding how the US administration and the world banking/finance machinery work is not to chase shadows such as Masonic or Illuminati 'secret plans', but to follow the money, and research the readily available facts regarding the influence wealded by these 'clubs'. The CFR, the Trilateral Comission and Kissinger associates, along with such foundations as The American Enterprise Institute, the Ford foundation and most of US Ivy League academia are all rolling around in the same morass. The US media is run and controlled by the same people. The spectacle of the Primaries and the whole voting farce is merely to get you thinking you are a part of the decision making. It doesn't matter who ends up in the throne: the next four years of strategy have been mapped out, and the required puppet shall dutifully play their role, Dem, Republican or Illuminati 'agent', it's not a mystery, and it's not a secret if you know how to follow the leads. As I said, it's all readily available information. Whether you want to classify it as Conspiracy Theory, Conspiracy Fact, or just hidden agenda, is immaterial to the outcome. One thing it is not, is 'secret'. |
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Sawtul Khilafah
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Of course they are all on the same team but my point was that the controlers behind the scenes prefer Obama as the next president, in other words they want him to be the figurehead, and depending on what happens in the war on Iraq and elsewhere they would decide in the end which plan they best go along with, the Liberal plan under Obama or to continue with the Neo-con plan. In my opinion, the situation is such that they are going with the Liberal plan and Obama fits in better with this plan than Hillary Clinton (she would work too, but I still think based on what I know that they prefer Obama to win). |
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Sawtul Khilafah
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Once again the Iranian Government spread misinformation in support of the Illuminati. On Sunday at 5 pm (Iran's time) they reported on their News Channel (Iran's channel 2): "The Zionists are afraid of Obama and dont want him to be the president because they know he will not help Israel".
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Duende
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Sawtul, I'm with you on the One World Government agenda conspiracy- I
mean I believe it has been on the agenda of the elite who govern behind the scenes for many centuries. I'm not convinced of the Illuminati argument as there are too many aspects about it which reek of manipulation,i.e people love exotic and far-out stories such as the one which goes: the world is ruled by reptilian aliens. David Icke gives me the creeps more than the thought of Brezinski in tights. Anyway, having done a lot of research into the 'elite' One World Government plan myself, I have found myself going through disbelief, and then despair as it appears this is where we are heading, and there seems to be no resistance. So I want to ask you: what are we to do with this knowledge? What's the point of getting yourself painted as a tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist, if that is all you gain from warning or informing people? I feel it's too early to call the Presidential candidate, the media are having a love affair with Obama and that means a backlash is on the cards. Build 'em up high to knock 'em down. The further you rise, the harder you fall. The US media in particular, just love to rub people's nose in the dirt. I don't know, but I just can't see the US accepting a Black family in the White House .... |
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