Does God Exist ?

varshaken wrote: Hi Dr. Syed Alwi!!!!!!!!! WELL SAID...................:) "What I mean is - don't take your religion too seriously as being the only true religion - the absolute truth. Be open minded. There are other religions besides Islam too. Religion is faith and not fact. Nothing wrong with faith - but it must be coupled with moderation and maturity. There should be a degree of scepticism which should come along with faith - to balance it. Otherwise what you get is simply short-sighted bigotry. Intolerance. In South East Asia we have to deal with a multi-religious society. That is why we have no Islamic States. .......... At the end of the day - a multi-religious society can stand tall because it is based on Universal values such as the Ten Commandments etc which ALL religions share. No one religion is more special than the others." THIS IS THE TRUTH. Excepting Indonesia, Bangladesh and Malaysia no country in the entire ASEAN has considerable Moslem population. Hats off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Varshaken, the Samurai.

Ah, my brother Varshaken. So, are you skeptic as what you believe? Do you keep your doubts with you when you meditate? and then you still believe that this meditation of yours would bring fruit to your efforts? I don't know about others, but for me, I can't be in an in-between state. Rest God knows the best.

Hi Mr. AhmadJoyia!!!

Good question,"So, are you skeptic as what you believe?" Yes, I was sceptic when I first started believing. I became a believer through overcoming that scepticism. I had been saying to you,"Faith, by its very nature, is devoid of logic and reason." So scepticism is a must to balance faith. Why? Because in order to stop faith becoming into fanaticism.:)

Not a good question," Do you keep your doubts with you when you meditate?"

Meditation is not praying. It does not depend on faith or belief. When one meditates one should not have any thoughts. What we do in meditation is that stopping the thought process. So as you see there are no thoughts, not even good thoughts when you meditate, so no doubts or anything.:)

Irrelevant question,"and then you still believe that this meditation of yours would bring fruit to your efforts?"
What fruit are you talking about? Do you mean to say that you pray to God only because you want to go to Heaven? We dont ask anything or dont expect anything when we meditate. I dont love my parents because they give me what I want, I love them because I love them, no reason or purpose for loving them. Similarly I dont love God because He sends me to Heaven when I love Him and obey Him, but I love because of love's sake.

Good premise," I don't know about others, but for me, I can't be in an in-between state."
But Dr. Syed Alwi is not asking you to doubt what you believe, but through belief cross the ocean of doubt.

Allaah knows best.

Varshaken, the Samurai.

varshaken wrote: Hi Mr. AhmadJoyia!!! Good question,"So, are you skeptic as what you believe?" Yes, I was sceptic when I first started believing. I became a believer through overcoming that scepticism.

But Dr. Alwi (and as I see you agreeing to him) still wants you to remain skeptic and not to overcome it. The struggle that you did in the past was futile. According to him, you must retain some of skeptism to have a "pinch of salt".

I had been saying to you,"Faith, by its very nature, is devoid of logic and reason." So scepticism is a must to balance faith. Why? Because in order to stop faith becoming into fanaticism.:)

That is a fallacy. A negation to faith. Skeptism is "Opposite" of faith.  Its not the skeptism that balances out to stop fanaticism but knowledge with wisdom.

Not a good question," Do you keep your doubts with you when you meditate?" Meditation is not praying. It does not depend on faith or belief. When one meditates one should not have any thoughts. What we do in meditation is that stopping the thought process. So as you see there are no thoughts, not even good thoughts when you meditate, so no doubts or anything.:)

So you bring your mind to idle? Haven't you heard of "An idle brain is the devil's workshop". Hmm!! That must be the reason.  

Good premise," I don't know about others, but for me, I can't be in an in-between state." But Dr. Syed Alwi is not asking you to doubt what you believe, but through belief cross the ocean of doubt.

I may be wrong, but I think he has not said this nor even meant this. Kindly read again what he has said or ask him to clarify. He says or atleast he means to say that one should not cross the ocean of doubt with belief but to keep some of it to avoid going into extremes.

Hi Mr. AhmadJoyia!!!!!!!!

I was saying the same thing. I asked you what amount did you study to conclude that others are not religions.

No two people can explain Koran identically. No two people will have the same line of thinking. This is also true regarding you and me. I see that Dr.Syed Alwi is liberal.

Regarding "intolerance" of ASEAN nations, not one day is passed without reading about Moslems killing someone by bombing etc. So what will anyone generally infer? They definitely think that most of the Moslems may be intolerant against other human beings.

Just look at you, you always call me "brother", I wonder whether brother is a word or you really feel I am your brother.

Varshaken, the Samurai.