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usama
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 7:20pm |
Asalaam alaikum The nature of the identities of the victims and perpetrators is less relevant than the solution and the method of its application. The concept of genocide emerges from a distinctly Western international legal concept. This should not suggest that the solution should follow. Historically, people have grouped and formed societies based on families and tribes which modernized into nations. One can add that within this, race has been identified and tied to these particular groupings. Does it matter than people of different tribes see someone of a particular racial composition and attack him, or rape her, killing them, taking their belongings? The act of attacking, raping, killing, usurping is what matters. |
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Let there arise from amongst you a group inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and they are the successful ones. Al Imran:104
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Escobar
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hmmm i dont know... these so called arab millitia mean dont look black to me!!! i think its alot of manipulation by the media as to the cause of the Darfur Crisis.... Firstly the region of Darfur is REVOLTED against the government of Sudan...not to justify whats happened there...
but anyway muslims should be smart...i dont think its arab Vs Blacks...
none the less something needs to be done!!! |
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Israfil
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I'm not saying that this is an "why Arab hate black issue" I was merely commenting on what YOU said. As the subject head appropriately states I was commenting on what it entails not to go off and speak upon issues not relating to it. The reality of this situation here is, this is what it is. It's called genocide but I call it ethnic cleansing....
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Mishmish
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Walaikum Assalaam: I have never tried to trivialize this situation. I was posting information on the genocide here when no-one else was. But I see it as people killing people, as all genocides ultimately are, an evil that must be stopped. Not as a soap box to go off on why the Arabs hate black Africans. I also see the Palestinian situation as a slow genocide. I also view what happened in the DR Congo as genocide. The Congo was actually the first genocide of this century. Not as interesting to talk about I guess as there were no murdering Arabs involved. Of course, we could talk about Somalia, where the secular war lords are fighting, with back from the U.S., and killing the Muslim government. The next possible genocide, but no Arabs.... Edited by Mishmish |
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Israfil
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Wa Salaam According my serveral sources I've refuted any attempt here to trivialize the situation and people here noting it as "black on black genocide." As the author above has noted their hisorical difference and cultural difference this is not the case. This is, as I have thought it to be before an African-Arab incident carried out by the Sudanese government whom is composed of Arabs so please guys spare me the excuses I've refuted any claims here otherwise and if you need more references I will be more than happy to show you guys! |
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Israfil
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Wa Salaam I saw the photos and I still don't see this as a black on black incident as thise author notes the distinction here: Who Are the Janjaweed?A guide to the Sudanese militiamen.By Brendan I. Koerner Much of the violence in Sudan, which has created over 1 million refugees, has been attributed to militias known as the Janjaweed. Who are the Janjaweed? The word, an Arabic colloquialism, means "a man with a gun on a horse." Janjaweed militiamen are primarily members of nomadic "Arab" tribes who've long been at odds with Darfur's settled "African" farmers, who are darker-skinned. (The labels Arab and African are rather misleading, given the complexity of the region's ethnic history. For simplicity's sake, Explainer will stick with these inelegant terms.) Until 2003, the conflicts were mostly over Darfur's scarce water and land resources�desertification has been a serious problem, so grazing areas and wells are at a premium. In fact, the term "Janjaweed" has for years been synonymous with bandit, as these horse- or camel-borne fighters were known to swoop in on non-Arab farms to steal cattle. The Janjaweed started to become much more aggressive in 2003, after two non-Arab groups, the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement, took up arms against the Sudanese government, alleging mistreatment by the Arab regime in Khartoum. In response to the uprising, the Janjaweed militias began pillaging towns and villages inhabited by members of the African tribes from which the rebel armies draw their strength�the Zaghawa, Masalit, and Fur tribes. (This conflict is entirely separate from the 22-year-old civil war that has pitted the Muslim government against Christian and animist rebels in the country's southern region. The Janjaweed, who inhabit western Sudan, have nothing to do with that war.) Here is the reference Sister Mishmish http://www.slate.com/id/2104210/ Also if you want more proof here is another article: I interviewed refugees spread over hundreds of miles in eastern Chad. One woman, Hadiya Adam Ahmed, had crossed into Chad only two days before and was living under a tree near the remote border town of Bahai. Spread around her were her few remaining possessions: a blanket, some water jugs, a few bowls. She had left home without food and in two weeks of travel had depended on her fellow refugees for occasional handfuls of soaked sorghum for herself and her nine children. Hadiya had two bullet wounds in her right leg. She said she had been shot by a Sudanese soldier when she and a 17-year-old girl went to draw water from a well for themselves and others who were fleeing. Sister the following is an excerpt by an Arab Scholar who notes the strained relations between black African and Arab please read the following as well as the response, its quite long so please take time in reading it: Tuesday, July 19, 2005Arab Racism against Black Africans
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Mishmish
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Assalamu Alaikum: You can see photos of the Janjaweed all over the internet... |
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