Salam-wife post of 20th December (2 posts) are very good. Anatolian has also explained his previous posts and seems to know a lot about Muslim countries. The Saudis may be giving money to the Palestinians. But what they are doing in their own country is more important. There is a one man rule. Many Muslim countries could learn a good lesson of decent behavious towards masses from the nearby democratic countries.

 Too much love of the religion without understanding it and without actually practicing it has let down the Muslim countries. There is all sorts of corruption there. I would feel that there is no freedom of speech in Muslim countries. That was the basic principle of Islam. Same is being denied now even in Makkah.

Martha was right in saying that Jews were punished due to rejecting Jesus. S-R has tried to give different reason that the Jews did not agree to the Roman Emperor Caligula or revolted against him. I agree with the reason given by Martha. This act of rebelion was also due to not accepting a man of God (Jesus). The Jews were misled people once they rejected Jesus. So the calamity befell them as a punishment.

Why should any Pakistani, Saudi or Afghans pay for the Anglo-American crime against the Palestinians. Almost the whole world had asked the Imperial Masters of that time not to play with such fire.

You created it, my son, now you pay for it. Don't ever mention Afghan or Afghanistan in any of your deformed posts.

 S-R, you are right about the destruction of jeroshlem by the Romans. Punishment does not come at once. Had the Jews accepted Jesus as a prophet of God then they would have been guided to a better thinking, better way of life. Istead they became disobedient, disloyal. After 40 years (i.e. 70 A.D.) their time was up. The serious punishment "Azaab" comes after rejecting the man of God, sooner or later.

 If the Jews had accepted Jesus as a prophet then they would have benefitted. They would even have got freedom from the rule of Romans in a peaceful way, some how. First they had to behave themselves amongst themselves before they could prosper in the world.

 I was in agreement with your post excpt that I had connected the punishment of the Jews with the rejection of Isa a.s. And I did not take good note of Marthas remark about the Jews accepting Jesus as son of God. That was my mistake and not true and not necessary. Thanks for your correcting advice.