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 Asalamu aleykum warah matulahi wa baraktuh, Bismilahi Rahmani Rahiim.

My follow Musilim i s2 islam, I was just thinking about this matter 15 minutes ago. I thought about how peaceful the Muslims are, and how law obydient we are, yet there is still enemies of the Muslims. I believe the Enemies of the Muslim don't hate us personally as people but they hate our fate, they Hate Islam and Allah, in their souls they believe Islam is the right religion yet they have no wisdom and understanding, how can they hate a religion they believe is the right one? they are  damb, deaf, and blind and they are not returning to Allah.

They hate us because of our faith not that we are violant or threat to them, they are the enemies of Allah and his religion, so they are clearly fighting Allah's religion and they hate his followers. They will never accept us till we disbelieve, even we become their slaves, they will never accept our peace and love. So My follow Muslims be aware of the Enemies of Allah and never obey them, let us  not aid the enemies of Allah by dividing the Believers, let us not lose our patience, let us ask Allah to guide us to his path and let us ask him to make us faithful believers who invite people to the way of Allah. Allah does not change the condtion of people till they change their own condtions, the key to success is following Our Messenger Mohammed Aleyhi Salaam and his way of faith, let us follow Allah's religion Islam and be true Muslims, We are Muslims and our faith is Islam! let us never add any other name after Islam and Muslim.

Let us Unite our brothers and sisters under one banner Muslims and Islamic faith, let us hold firm the (rope) faith of Our Lord Islam and be true Muslims, let us be patient and he will make us Victorious, Asalamu aleykum warah matulahi wa barakatuh

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Diagoras Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2007 at 1:45pm
Raymond,

I am an atheist as well, however, I am not a jerk about it. Randomly insulting people and acting like a general troll has given atheism a bad name, and your actions aren't helping.

If you want to discuss the issue of intolerance in Islam, I would suggest making a reasoned, sensitive post in the Interfaith Dialogue forum.
A proud constitutional democratic republican.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote martha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2007 at 10:26am

Raymond said:-

I just don't bother posting as everyone is so singleminded & righteous that they're manmade religion is right that its pointless trying to 'reason' with them.

Oh please Raymond, we're not all like that. I come here to listen to all views.

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Originally posted by Cassandra Cassandra wrote:

I am unsure as to where you live, but have you looked at Fundamentalist Propaganda in the US lately? Tolerance there? I live in Spain.  Islam here was tolerant enough of other religions to allow all to worship freely...

...until the Catholic Monarchs threw them out. And the Inquisition moved in.

Please do, check your facts, and don't throw the Islamic Baby out with the Propagandistic Bathwater.  You have chosen to visit here.  If you stop and listen carefully enough, you might learn something that will challenge your ideas.  No-one is asking you to convert (I am more Christian Gnostic than anything else) but you might be able to understand your own beliefs better if you are open to those of others. It is not as you have been told.

I have been on here plenty of times and read alot of extreme views from both sides. I just don't bother posting as everyone is so singleminded & righteous that they're manmade religion is right that its pointless trying to 'reason' with them.

With regards to Spain all those many years ago...... I am all to aware how holding onto history can generate hatred of cultures or countrys so I think I'll stick to the here and now and not go back through time to say "well the christians did this" or "the muslims did that" etc.

As for the propaganda bit .. ... could a western women walk down a street in a muslim country ie Iraq, Iran, wearing a mini skirt etc ..... nope.... Is it propaganda that an english teacher was arrested for calling a teddy bear mohammed?? nope. Is it propaganda that muslims rioted after a cartoon was drawn of mohammed ? nope. Are you trying to suggest that Muslims extremist are not worse, more extreme than christian fundamentalists?? coz if you are then it is you that is spreading the propaganda.

i dont think anyone is trying to convert me..I dislike ALL religions and wonder about the righteous people that follow all of them. I understand my own beliefs very well but thats very easy for me as they are my beliefs and not just ones I read in a book or learnt from a priest/preacher/prophet/conman etc

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 December 2007 at 2:41am

Simply beautiful post.

Imagine, all the three Spanish Musketeers in a row! Most folks just get dazzled just by her sun and fail to feel the soul of Spain.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cassandra Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2007 at 12:22pm

Raymond,

Quote: I think all religions are manmaid to control people and no of them are "correct" but if I was forced to pick one then it definately wouldn't be Islam as its the most intolerant one.

I am unsure as to where you live, but have you looked at Fundamentalist Propaganda in the US lately? Tolerance there? I live in Spain.  Islam here was tolerant enough of other religions to allow all to worship freely...

...until the Catholic Monarchs threw them out. And the Inquisition moved in.

Please do, check your facts, and don't throw the Islamic Baby out with the Propagandistic Bathwater.  You have chosen to visit here.  If you stop and listen carefully enough, you might learn something that will challenge your ideas.  No-one is asking you to convert (I am more Christian Gnostic than anything else) but you might be able to understand your own beliefs better if you are open to those of others. It is not as you have been told.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2007 at 10:32am

I have actually flown past his.

Almost at the legendary 52,000 feet from where the kindness is showered by our great kind folks.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duende Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2007 at 6:41am
Drive by post by 'raymond' ..........

BBBbbbbrrrrrrrmmmmmmm!!!!
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