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Diagoras
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nu001,
That is correct, the West has a long tradition of religious freedom. However, it is not anti-religious but secular. The role of the State is not to enforce the moral views of one religion or another (that leads only to the terror and carnage of the Dark Ages) but to ensure that the liberties of its citizens are defended. It is only the Islam which still influences the state value systems to a large extent. That is, quite frankly, a terrible thing. Why should a Muslim be able to tell me how to wear my hair or who I can have sex with? What business is it of theirs? And the reverse is true, I have no right to tell a Muslim that they cannot worship their God so long as that worship does not trample on my liberties. A State ruled by religion will only encourage religious war and hatred. |
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nu001
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Who is warring on Islam? Are they christians? Mini skirts, drugs, living tigether, top less, bottomless, nudity, alchoholism etc etc are results of current western civilizations, which is also leveled as democracy and freedom. Are these the christian preachings and cultures? Vastly the western world is ruled by devils (Anti Religious/Anti God). Western people find it Obligatory, legal or convenient rathar than to follow christianity. Even being a christian priest for the most, is more of a profession than motivation. They are also finding it convenient. A homosexual can be the head of a church. Imagine what's happening there?? It is only the Islam which still influences the state value systems to a large extent. Religiously that has a lot of similarities with the christian values as well. According to bible, a women's head should be shaved off if she is coming open with uncovered hair, drinking is discouraged in bible and premarital sex is a grave sin. So the west feels their anti religious value system based on absolute freedom, threatened by only Islam. Specially those who are strong advocates of the religious value system, they are terrorists in western view, as they are terrorising that anti religious value system and the west has gone crazy to kill and eliminate them. Allah Says: when the falsehood clashes with the truth, the falsehood perishes, for it is bound to perish by it's nature. So we can wait and watch the result, even if u are not interested to actively participate for the truth, Allah will ensure it. History shows, None could get away with falsehood. Edited by nu001 |
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Whisper
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ISLAM IS INTOLERANT OF INJUSTICE, SO THE UNJUST WILL HATE IT You deserve an Oscar for this line, my friend. |
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Whisper
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As for the propaganda bit .. ... could a western women walk down a street in a muslim country ie Iraq, Iran, wearing a mini skirt etc My absolutely brilliant sisters, please, just spare him. He is just a man. For him the ultimate of see wee lie zation is to see a woman walking down a street in a mini skirt or preferably with nothing on at all!! |
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mariyah
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Peace be to you Raymond. In the Quran it states :29:46 And do not argue with the followers of earlier revelation otherwise than in a most kindly manner - unless it be such of them as are bent on evildoing <>Asad(29,42)[42] and say: �We believe in that which has been be�stowed from on high upon us, as well as that which has been bestowed upon you: or our God and your God is one and the same, and it is unto Him that We [all] surrender ourselves.� I believe that God allows all religions to exist for a purpose, that we may learn to tolerate each other's differences and learn to accept each other beliefs without judging them or downgrading the value of each other's differences. Certainly, each person of one faith seems to believe that God or access to God can only be attained through the participation of a person in that one faith only. I do not believe this is the case. God has projected one continuing theme through all his messengers and prophets: Love your neighbor as you would love for yourself, desire for your neighbor what you would desire for yourself. Give to charity, be charitable, give of your excess to those who are in need or have less than yourself. Honor God, respect what He has provided for you, be respectful of your fellow people of the book. One thing in common, we All believe that God, Allah, Yahweh is the final judge and that We will stand before Him on the Last Day to be Judged. I am sorry for those who do not have the hope, the hope of a life after this one that can be better and less painful. What does one hope for or have to attain to if you only believe in what you have now and that you are the descendant of a guppy. True, from dust we are and to dust we must return, but where does the essence, the essence of the spirit we are or the personality we are, go to after physical death? Why make the effort to better ourselves if all we are is to be ash. I believe that Allah Subanallah wa taala will raise all who are worthy to a better place. May you find what you desire in this life. Mariyah |
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Duende
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Non-muslim attitudes towards Islam are mostly based on what people
observe Muslim society to be doing, without seeking to find out whether what Muslims do is directly because of the Koran, or more to do with their own interpretation and understanding of it, their cultural environment, or even their social history. Anyway, those who come here to berate Muslims for applying capital punishment or state-sanctioned beatings or stoning, do so from a position of "you say this, but you DO this". A position of assumed superiority. I just don't understand why they don't apply the same degree of critical analyses to Christianity or Judaism, Hinduism or Buddhism. Could it be that these religions have not been demonised by the mainstream media, in accord with their political masters ... ? I don't understand why they don't question WHY they are compelled to judge Islam and Moslems, and not any other Abrahamic faith. Oscar says: "Maybe you could explain why there is so much violence, cruelty & a lack of tolerance involved with Islam"- maybe he could explain why there is so much violence, cruelty and institutionalised torture exported via films and the 'entertainment' media, or why there is so much cruelty, violence and lack of tolerance towards the inhabitants of Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Darfur, the Congo, Ethiopia ... "I think all religions are manmaid to control people and no of them are "correct" but if I was forced to pick one then it definately wouldn't be Islam as its the most intolerant one"- Fine, but what's the point in telling Muslims on an Islamic forum this? |
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OSCAR
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Maybe you could explain why there is so much violence, cruelty & a lack of tolerance involved with Islam ie lashing a rape victim 200times or rioting over a cartoon etc..... I think all religions are manmaid to control people and no of them are "correct" but if I was forced to pick one then it definately wouldn't be Islam as its the most intolerant one. [/QUOTE] ISLAM AND THE QURAN RECOGNIZES AND ACCEPTS THAT CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM AND OTHER RELIGION CAME FROM GOD. NO OTHER RELIGION OFFICIALLY ON EARTH ACCEPTS THAT ISLAM IS FROM GOD. ISLAM IS INTOLERANT OF INJUSTICE, SO THE UNJUST WILL HATE IT Edited by OSCAR |
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Sign*Reader
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Not until God blesses you to see the right from wrong! No body is converted by others, it is just the recollection and reiteration of the promise & contract your soul made at the time of it's creation and receiving when you took the first breath to become a human being. And it is all recorded.
Most people dislike a binding contract accept those who are conscious of their obligations whether written or not verbal contract is also binding with witness you know! That differentiate man / woman from the juveniles! There is huge industry to keep the people true to their obligations in their lives --called contract attorneys. I don't know what you meant by-- follow all of them
You need to elaborate briefly what your beliefs are and what you intend to gain by your altercations here! Edited by Sign*Reader |
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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