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Farooqui
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Salam alaikum (Peace be upon you) Sofia, You are a writer on scientific matters. Great then you can enlighten us on some of the great Greek scientists (and philosophers). We know that around 4000 - 2000BC this was where great strides were made on knowledge we possess today. The work of these outstanding intellects (such as Ptolemy) was not continued and furthered until much later from around 600 AD. This happened to be the time of the muslim scientists such as Al-Zahrawi and Jabir Ibn Hayyan, (see www.muslimheritage.com/) I find it fascinating that the words alchemy, alcali, chemistry and even alcohol are derived from Arab terms (even we muslims are largely ignorant of the fact that alcohol was invented by a muslim for sterilisation - not to drink!). I am intrigued by the links between the Greek and Islamic scientific thinkers, and what triggered the huge leap in man's knowledge in just a period of 300 years. Why did the Arabs suddenly have the answers to scientific problems when up till then they hadn't contributed much. I would greatly appreciate any information you may have come across (or would you be able to dig this history out?). Best wishes Farooqui (BTW Eid Mubarak everyone) Edited by Farooqui |
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sofia.greek
Newbie Joined: 06 October 2007 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Salam, friends, First of all, let me tell
you the first answer I got when I asked about the situation with Islam in I think this is not
information enough, so I will continue asking and I shall try to find someone
muslim, so I get more detailed answers… As regards my views of
Islam, I think Islam can be viewed in various different ways, depending on
which “face” or issue of it one is referring to. Of course, this goes for any
other “inclusive” entity or idea, as “Christianity” or even “socialism” etc… I
will be happy to talk about this issue – although I really don�t know details
about things… but, after all, even political situation are based not on what
THERE IS, but on what people THINK THERE IS… As regards the matters of
ancient Greek scientists, mentioned by Farooqui, I gave a quick look at the
encyclopaedia. One thing is for sure: famous ancient greek scientists and
philosophers are closer in time to the Arabic flourishing which you mention. DEMOKRITOS (by the way, I
only now realized that this name means “judged” or “elected” by the people), a
huge scientist and philosopher who is the father of the atomic theory, was born
around 450 BC. Another very famous philosopher,
ARISTOTELES, who has works on issues as ethics, biology, political thinking,
psychology, cosmology, theology, was born in 384 BC and was contemporary with
another huge philosopher who everybody must have heard of, PLATO. PTOLEMY, which you mention,
lived in the first part of the second century a.D. Another very famous
astronomer, ARISTARCOS, was born around 310 BC. He was mathematician,
astronomer and believed that the Earth goes around the Sun (as indeed it does),
while people then believed the opposite. He was probably a pupil of EUCLIDES.
Euclides was such a huge mathematician that a whole system of geometry
(Euclidean) is named after him. Anyway, there must have
been relations between Bye for now... |
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seekshidayath
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Am extremely sorry for being late to respond, sofia. Thankyou for the info u shared with us. Butttttt the answer regarding islam in Greece and your views of it, seemed to be concised Sofia. I mean we do not expect such brief one from journalists But yes, i thank you for spending your time with IC, Hope u continue at other sections too |
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sofia.greek
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Dear Seekshidayath,
you are perfectly right... I just had so many things to do during these days that I coudn't respond fully. I promise I'll do so, especially as regards my views of Islam. For the situation in Greece, I must find someone who really knows... Talk to you soon... Edited by sofia.greek |
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sofia.greek
Newbie Joined: 06 October 2007 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Salam, friends, sorry for not having
written before; as you know, I am trying very hard to convince the archeological
service of my country to act in order to preserve and restore the Ancient
Diolkos. Although they were SAYING they wanted to have the monument restored,
they were leaving it without care: a perfect way for the monument to be
destroyed while they would still be pretending they cared for it. Anyhow, in these past few
days I prepared an article for the most popular greek portal and now it has
appeared and the problem of this poor monument has thus been known to many more
people… I am repeating the link for
the petition if anyone cares to sign, www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/870477005 I “owe” you some thoughts
about my views of Islam. If we are talking about the muslim faith, it has many
things in common with the cristian one. It speaks of one God and it also states
that this is a God of kindness and peace. But I think that often these sacred
“guiding principles” are set aside by people who profess to be fervent believers.
I am not speaking only of Islam, to be sure. Although I am no expert in
religion or history, and I realize that I am not in a position to make detailed
analyses of historical facts, I know that cristian rulers have often moved to
conquer and destroy – seemingly in the name of faith. The Crusades were
(supposedly) made to redeem the “ I think that present day
expressions of a will to expand or fight against the west that characterize
some movements within Islam (I am putting my own description here – I don�t
know if it fits other people�s way of seeing things) manage to create a threat
but, as I said, don�t have to do with religion. I don�t know much about
geopolitical matters; I respect the wish, especially of poor people, to rise
against injustice and I have often admired the courage of people that don�t
care for their own lifes and are ready to sacrifice themselves. I am too small
to say if, for anyone that give up his or her life, this can be called “right”
or “wrong”. However, I would not like to become a victim of violence, as people
in Well, these were some thoughts… |
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peacemaker
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Hi sofia.greek, Welcome to the forum. Insha Allah ( God willing ), you would like this place. You may like to take part in discussions here in relevant sections to learn about Islam, Muslim and other issues. Prior to that, you may like to go through the guidelines here so that you may comply them: You may like to read English translation of Qur'an in the beginning to learn about Islam: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/SURAI.HTM May Allah guide us all. Peace Edited by peacemaker |
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seekshidayath
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Hi Sofia, Thanks a lot for your views. They were out of heart. We wish you to be active at Islamicity. And also, do read Qur'an and let us then know your views of Islam. I thank u once again . |
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sofia.greek
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Dear seekshidayath,
sorry for being so late again.... I had much to do and, unfortunately, one more ancient stone fell off the monument during the last days, so I had to write articles and messages to notify people about it... I haven't forgotten you... As soon as I have news, I will get back to you and tell you. Have a nice time... |
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