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Caringheart
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Greetings islamispeace,
It is because it is so repetitive that I am not reading but simply scanning. and, as I said, 'You summed up the reason I put no faith in islam. ' asalaam. Edited by Caringheart - 15 August 2014 at 6:13pm |
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Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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islamispeace
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I know, I know. You have to make excuses when you are stuck in a conundrum. The Bible is full of a "mixture of messages", wouldn't you agree? Follow the commandments in order to be saved. Which commandments? Well, it depends on who you ask! |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Caringheart
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Greetings islamispeace, I understand, that you can not understand... you have not studied the Christian scriptures, and you have to know what Yshwe said if you are to understand. 18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But He spake of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. ----------------------- 7 Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. ----------------------- 4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. 5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou? 6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify Me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. 17 Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father? 18 They said therefore, What is this that he saith, A little while? we cannot tell what he saith. 19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me? 20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy. 22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you. 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. 29 His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. 30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. 31 Jesus answered them, Do ye now believe? 32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me. Peace and blessings to you, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 15 August 2014 at 6:42pm |
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islamispeace
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Oh, I understand just fine. I understand that you Christians have been brain-washed and that no amount of reasoning with you will get you to accept what it right before your eyes. I notice that you again ignored what Jesus said in Matthew 19 about the commandments. Why is that? Why is it that when the man asked Jesus what he needed to do to be saved, Jesus said nothing about believing that he was "Lord"? Why did he say nothing about his redemptive death? Was he unaware of his impending death? Was he unaware of his mission? Why does Matthew 19 so clearly contradict other passages of the Bible? Why is it that the Bible has a "mixture of messages"? |
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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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Caringheart
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*sigh I guess you skipped reading all that I shared. The Bible is the testimony of many witnesses. Each reported what they felt important to share. It is not the testimony of one man who kept changing the message. Edited by Caringheart - 15 August 2014 at 10:51pm |
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iec786
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hi Caringheart,
so the Bible is not God's written book. iec |
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kingskid
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Muslim75 you wrote:
Who said that Jesus will come back as a saviour ? Jesus praised and honored Muhammad (salla Lahu alayhi wa alihi wa
sallam) on the occasion of the Night Journey. Jesus reveres Muhammad who
is the king of the prophets, as Sufi saintly knowledge teaches. As such
Jesus will not lead the nation of Muhammad (salla Lahu alayhi wa alihi
wa sallam). That is a priviledge of the successors of Muhammad, or of
Muhammad himself, in all logic. You say Muhammad left this world, but I
say Muhammad and the prophets are beyond the limits of time and space.
That is basic logic and basic knowledge of the stories of the prophets. Yeshua will not come back again to die. He died once and for all for the sins of mankind. Romans 6:10, "The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. [NIV, emphasis added] Yeshua will return as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, not as a saviour all over again: "They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings�and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.�[Rev. 17:14, NIV] |
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