Apostacy and few other issues

bunter,
I see what you are unable to grasp. By obeying God and the prophet, you think Muslims are making God and the Prophet equal?
You are just misunderstanding the whole thing. You can obey God and obey the Prophet without blasphemy. Here is how you do it: You take God as God, and the Prophet as the Prophet. If you are able to distinguish between the two and follow each as should be, there is no problem and fear of blasphemy.
See the Muslims see and keep their prophet as a man chosen by God to be their teacher, a prophet. Muslims never think of their prophet as god, divine nor son of God. Christians on the other hand has taken their prophet, Jesus, a man, equal to God, a god, son of God and so on, thus crossing into open blasphemy.
Hasan

Bunter,
I just showed you on the subject, that you were wrong and I showed you how. I guess you admit that so you start another topic. If so, just start a new thread and I will address it.
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 23 August 2012 at 3:11pm

bunter wrote: honeto wrote: bunter, there is nothing different for a Muslim, we also love God, and purpose of our lives is to please our maker: "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah fearing. " The Quran 2:177 For Christians the driving force is that God loved us first, while we were yet sinners. The ideas are summed up in the following verses.� Titus 3:5 (AMP) "He saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but because of His own pity and mercy, by [the] cleansing [bath] of the new birth (regeneration) and renewing of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 22:37-40�(AMP) "And He replied to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind (intellect).�This is the great (most important, principal) and first commandment.�And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as [you do] yourself.�These two commandments sum up and upon them depend all the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 5:44�(AMP) "But I tell you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"

Mark 12:28-34

28 Then one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, perceiving that He had answered them well, asked Him, "Which is the first commandment of all?" 29 Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one.Exodus 20 This was the commandment.nothing about love and all that nonsense.

nothing wrote: bunter wrote: So let me ask, can your prophet be wrong. If the Hadiths can be believed than yes he did make a mistake, at least in one hadith he admitted about a mistake he made. It was about planting, or harvesting, something to do with farming. Than also, once he decided to make certain food as haram, in which his decision was revoked almost right away. It is recorded in Chapter 66.O Prophet! why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee?, Thou seekest to please thy consorts? But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (66:1)

Interesting. How do you decide what to follow and what to ignore?