Proof from Bible that Jesus never died

The Quran is no shabby book that you can take verses from it to support your claim like I just did with the Bible. Jesus said LIKE JONAH WAS SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE. What was Jonah? Dead or alive? You say no he was emphasising the time factor, well, did he fullfill that? Johna peace be upon him was three days and three nights, Jesus wasnt.

What exactly are you implying about the bible?  I don't recall anyone on this forum saying the quran was shabby - really we must treat each other with respect.  Clearly there are great misunderstandings on both sides. 

I asked previously for someone to quote the verses from the Quran and then quote any hadiths and then to explain clearly anything that Muhammed had taught regarding this - so far not a single person has adhered to my simple request.  And yet we find someone inferring that the bible is shabby.

saomai wrote: Ok to my muslim friends out there - GET CLEAR and CLEARLY explain in detail from Quran to Hadith why Jesus did not die and the accompanying islamic thoughts and thinking.  How on earth do any of you propose to help a christian understand your line of thinking when you are all over the place in total inconsistency????? What a disgrace!  Here you have opportunity to teach islamic thoughts & beliefs and instead you ramble on senselessly!!!

We teach Islam and and discuss Christianity here, saomai. Greetings & Welcome. Qur'aan does not tell us long stories but the Lord Almighty tells us that Jesus was surely not killed. People thought he was dead but he was not. To find out more, we have to refer to the New Testament and one word stands out right there in the Good Book, in this statement.

"They laid him in the tomb." All of us are all discussing Jesus, who spoke Hebrew and Aramaic, in English. We are also referring to the Bible in English. Had Jesus been really dead, it would have been written, "He was laid to rest, in the tomb." and this would have signified that he was dead. Hope in this case, we will not have to rely on Greek.

BMZ

Ok to my muslim friends out there - GET CLEAR and CLEARLY explain in detail from Quran to Hadith why Jesus did not die and the accompanying islamic thoughts and thinking.  How on earth do any of you propose to help a christian understand your line of thinking when you are all over the place in total inconsistency?????

What a disgrace!  Here you have opportunity to teach islamic thoughts & beliefs and instead you ramble on senselessly!!!

Welcome to the discussions, Jerry (Seeker of Truth).

Frater BMZ,

And then there are those who have read, studied thoroughly, questioned and still believe.  One need only do a Google search on this particular apparent contradiction (Matt 12:40) to see that others (Christians) have noticed and at least to their minds have satisfactorily resolved the problem.

False .  St. Jerome, early in the Fifth Century, completed his Latin translation of the Old Testament (from the Hebrew) which is contained in the Vulgate.  The Scholastic tradition within Christianity produced venerable and sagacious scholars and does to this day.  The early (ante-Nicene, or pre-Nicean Council) fathers, Origen and Tertullian spring to mind, were well-versed not only in Greek philosophy but also the revealed scriptures, even if by way of the Septuagint.

False.  Early Christianity began as a sectarian controversy within Judaism (which, following the destruction of the Temple by Titus, itself morphed into its current Rabbinical form) and is distinguished by those who recognize Jesus as the promised Messiah and those who do not.  Plenty did and do, regardless of their race or tribe.

True.  He was recognized both in scripture and in the flesh by those who later, at Antioch (Acts 11:26), became known as �Christians.�  That is to be understood.  Jesus himself is said to have said that the scriptures, a reference at that time to the (OT) Law and the Prophets, speak of him (John 5:39).  To those with the proverbial �or, what might better be said, spiritual- eyes to see, those scriptures do speak of him.

Copied, yes, that's what scribes do (or did).  Edited, to be proved.  Until I am shown otherwise, I assume that St. Jerome�s translation of the Hebrew into Latin is just that, a translation, arguably good or bad, as any translation is.  The name Old Testament was coined by those who recognized that, in Jesus, a new covenant, testament, or agreement, was in place between Man and God, as scriptures said would happen, and the details of this are, to my mind, best articulated in the infinitely arguable and at times recondite  Epistle to the Hebrews.

Best regards,

Serv