America, the Disliked, but why so much?

Angel wrote: herjihad wrote: Bismillah, Patty, I should have known that you would just twist my words.  You insulted the people of this site by saying that it "bothered you".  Herjihad, Honestly it seems you have taken this out of proportion and in your temper are twisting words of hers around. The "bothered you" you have completely missed patty' point. This is the sentence of what was said:  There are MANY Muslims near where I live....we all live together peacefully.  We have no problems...that's one reason this site bothers me.  In other words, The muslims she interacts at home with are different here on this site and are peaceful and tolerant whereas for this site patty experiences something else - the opposite and that bothered her for which she cannot figure out why the extreme differences. You think Patty has been insulting perhaps you can check your words again. If I were a moderator, I would have banned you long ago for the way you insult the Muslims and friends of Muslims here.  What?  Muslims wanting a corner of the internet where they are not ridiculed for their faith and desire to live peacefully and garner support for issues we care about seems like to much for you? with that attitude, you shouldn't be moderator.

Bismillah,

Not interested in moderating this board, chicita.  I have a busy life as mom and a wife.  And power corrupts, so I'm really not going there at all.  AstagfirAllah!

Nuf said. 

Wa alaikum Salaam sister Herjihad, before I respond to you let me address Duende please:

Duende you laid out a few paragraphs on why you may dislike America, but let me ask you personally do you have a problem with America? Have you been to America? What was your experience? If you live in America has injustice been done to you?

Herjihad:

Sister I understand what you are saying and I agree that first the Lebanese situation should cease of course. I agree with you there! But sister Herjihad you also would agree that prior to the Lebanese situation there is a recurring problem that Islamicity.com does not always address: Darfur, Sudan. The problem is still ongoing. You think that just because there is a so-called ceasefire that the problems have stopped? Men are killed, the women are raped and the children sold into modern-day slavery. Also sister do you know that the government is using attack helicopters against the people?

I have so much to say against this form of bias media its ridiculous! With no offense to you sister Herjihad nor to any one of Arab descent but I firmly believe (which I find to be true in this case) that Sudan is not getting much covered because its Arab media. Not to mention since the Janjaweed is an Arab militia killing Black African it reflects somewhat not only on the culture but also on the Arab dilemma. I firmly think that Arab problems take prescedence over non-Arab problems-even if they're Muslim. Now I maybe wrong in my generalization now correct me please but I tend to find this true. Al-Jazeera for instance covers mostly problems going on in the Arab world, grant it, it does cover other problems ion the Muslim world but none takes prescedence over things dealing with Arab countries.

My theory from this, is that the psychological effect of more media coverage on Arab problems such as Lebanon etc the more sympathetic and empathetic Muslims are towards the Arab problem rather than the problems going on in the other world. Again I made the example of the strife going on in Africa long before the Palestinian/Israeli situation and nobody here chose to tackle that. We are talking about centuries old problems not just decades old.  Black African Muslims in Sudan in my opinion are perhaps the most underpriveledged and oppressed in the sense of longevity of injustice. However in the sense of measurement of pain and suffering no pain is greater than the next because they all amount to the same end: Suffering.

There is Jedi saying Master Yoda quoted, he said: "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Israfil wrote: Wa alaikum Salaam sister Herjihad, before I respond to you let me address Duende please: Duende you laid out a few paragraphs on why you may dislike America, but let me ask you personally do you have a problem with America? Have you been to America? What was your experience? If you live in America has injustice been done to you? Herjihad: Sister I understand what you are saying and I agree that first the Lebanese situation should cease of course. I agree with you there! But sister Herjihad you also would agree that prior to the Lebanese situation there is a recurring problem that Islamicity.com does not always address: Darfur, Sudan. The problem is still ongoing. You think that just because there is a so-called ceasefire that the problems have stopped? Men are killed, the women are raped and the children sold into modern-day slavery. Also sister do you know that the government is using attack helicopters against the people? I have so much to say against this form of bias media its ridiculous! With no offense to you sister Herjihad nor to any one of Arab descent but I firmly believe (which I find to be true in this case) that Sudan is not getting much covered because its Arab media. Not to mention since the Janjaweed is an Arab militia killing Black African it reflects somewhat not only on the culture but also on the Arab dilemma. I firmly think that Arab problems take prescedence over non-Arab problems-even if they're Muslim. Now I maybe wrong in my generalization now correct me please but I tend to find this true. Al-Jazeera for instance covers mostly problems going on in the Arab world, grant it, it does cover other problems ion the Muslim world but none takes prescedence over things dealing with Arab countries. My theory from this, is that the psychological effect of more media coverage on Arab problems such as Lebanon etc the more sympathetic and empathetic Muslims are towards the Arab problem rather than the problems going on in the other world. Again I made the example of the strife going on in Africa long before the Palestinian/Israeli situation and nobody here chose to tackle that. We are talking about centuries old problems not just decades old.  Black African Muslims in Sudan in my opinion are perhaps the most underpriveledged and oppressed in the sense of longevity of injustice. However in the sense of measurement of pain and suffering no pain is greater than the next because they all amount to the same end: Suffering. There is Jedi saying Master Yoda quoted, he said: "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Brother Israfil,

We must try to know as much as we can about geography and the people of the world and what is going on.  We can only try and we should try harder and more diligently.

For myself, I care very much about all of these things.  Darfur and Sudan would be easier to understand if someone came and posted things about them from their perspectives and the people who live there as well.

Ruwanda remains on my mind as an example of how evil people can be to each other and I would like to know much more about it.  There is a book by a survivor that I would like to read called "Left to Tell"

You quote crime statistics in LA.  You live in California.  Share with us things that come up there.  My husband lived in a little refugee town because the Israelis burned down his mother's village and killed many of the people there.  We are all interested in events going on with our families and friends.  Right now that same refugee camp is under siege, not last week, but today.  I read about it in Daniel's link.  There are little old women and men and children and young workers that I know and care about that are being attacked there right now.

I can't speak for others about their interest in LA or Darfur or Ruwanda, but I will learn as much as I can and take action in what I am humanly able.  What can we do to help in Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia right now?  Post things about it Brother.

Yoda -- cool little dude.

Salaamu Alaykum