Pope’s speech stirs Muslim anger

raymond wrote: Its depressing for the future of the world reading some of your warped comments. The Pope was QUOTING someone. If there should be any out rage then it should be against the murderers who killed a NUN who dedicated her life to helping people. I do not believe in religion and it is because of these very reasons. Your religions are your excuses for violence and control and seperation and condemnation. You all think you know everything and that you are seated at the right hand side of holy righteousness. Twisting your books to suit your beliefs. I read one of the above comments about how our freedom is "naked women" and "porn" etc..............i had to laugh at that. I'd rather that then a hidden lady with eyes that show the fear of violence. Remember when those cartoons came out from Denmark and the Muslim extremists started burning and killing as a result. For gods sake if you are in any way religious then grow a sense of humour. Why is violence always the first and last answer. You wouldnt see christians get so worked up about a cartoon or a anti christian speech (and there's loads of those). and no i'm not a christian remember. This is my opinion and I'm entitled to it just like your entitled to yours. If I had my way I'd ban all religions and then maybe people wouldnt know who to murder or curse or threaten. RELIGION BREEDS VIOLENCE

It appears that you didn't read my previous post in this thread.

"the quote "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached" was not uttered by Pope Benedict himself (as is wrongly being considered) but instead is the words of the Byzantine emperor."

This is called playing the game in a more "civilized" way. Why was he quoting anti-Islam figure in his speech? Why couldn't he quote many other non-Muslim figures who spoke very high about Islam? There was never this kind of problem at the time of his predecessor, John Paul II who put in efforts for better Muslim-Christian relations. The present Pope could have taken his example and avoided making such an irresponsbile speech.

At the same time I also oppose any form of violent protests as a response to his speech.

If you want to discuss the meaning of Jihad, open a thread in Islam for non-Muslim section and I ( or someone ) will be pleased to answer your queries as that is not in the scope of this section. 

Why is it so hard to see what wrong Pope did? And as I said, violent response to his speech must also be condemned, and I condemn both. But, Pope having such a position of authority could avoid this mess altogether.

Peace

 

Leii wrote: Have any of you people even bothered to read or listen to what the Pope actually said?!

and free speech is not allowed anywhere now?! There is free speech in this world and many of us live in countries where we can say what we like and express our opinions.

you might like to do a bit of research, start with germany first  

In a way I agree with Raymond when he wrote about why we pay any attention to him.. we give him more power then we should. On the other hand, he DOES have influence.  People actually do listen to him. And if he is contributing to the problem then he should be called on it.

The truly sad case of things is that there are extremists on both ends.. either with people who are using violence in the name of self-defense and/or the people sending the US to invade others peoples' lands (war in Iraq and Afganistan).  And that most of the people in the world are caught in the middle and feel powerless. We can see things and get cannot stop them. People in west fear Islam and Moslems now and Moslems fear the west and/or governmental groups.  People are dying needlessly and uselessly.

Hanan wrote: Shery, Ratzinger is not only an Islamophobe but also a Coward by hiding behind the words of a long-dead person. OF COURSE he meant what he �quoted�, and it was spoken as a message of support to the Christian extremists.

Sr. Hanan, will you please cite some evidence to support this wild accusation?  And please do not go off in a tangent with what someone else said or did (including Bush or Blair, since they are not under his command) since you are accusing him and not others.


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