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Patty
Senior Member Joined: 14 September 2001 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2382 |
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"I am beginning to suspect the US wants nothing better than And you, Sir, would be absolutely wrong. But, hey, everyone hates the US anyway.....so believe what you will. Look at all the Muslims who live here in the states....I know MANY of them very, very well. They are treated like any other citizen here, probably in some case much better than an old-fashioned hag like myself! And also like my husband who is a native American....a Passamaquady Indian. But if it makes you feel better to believe this crap...have at it. I'm sick of ALL OF IT FROM EVERYONE. We speak of peace, and then turn around and SPREAD HATRED. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE HUMAN RACE??????????? Sorry, but the American people HATE the fact that our young men and women are fighting a thankless battle for the safety of the good Muslim people in the Middle East. We are very saddened to see all the dying...people such as yourself and many other Brits have the false impression we are somehow enjoying watching our own soldiers die...our people being beheaded and tortured. Are you NUTS???? Of course we hate this as much, or more, than you. IF we don't ALL get our heads on straight, stop hating each other, stop telling this lying crap on the internet sites, we are only going to continue our path to destruction. And right now, that just might be a good thing. Analyze away now. |
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Patty
I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future. |
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DavidC
Senior Member Male Christian Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: Florida USA Status: Offline Points: 2474 |
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This war is economics and politics not religion. But who is going to fight for economics and politics? Nobody, so everyone plays up this religious war concept.
Here it is. Iran needs to sell gas to Europe, but it costs too much to bottle and ship. So they need a pipeline. The US wants a pipeline across Gaza and the Mediterranian so we would have control. This is the only reason anybody even cares about Gaza. Russia wants a pipeline through Syria so they can control it. Nobody can build anything until the politics are settled, but Iran is running out of time and money. So Iran is forcing the issue in every way possible. It's not religion. Just gas pains. |
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superme
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Maybe they don't but I do. I really long to see the palestinian can live in peace as they want it to be in their own land. Although I am on the verge of giving up to see it but yes I do. How many times do the people hijack the palestian people aspiration to live freely in their own land. Some Palestinian group did the hijacking themselves, the Israelis have done that numerous times and others too for whatever the reasons. Yet the weak palestinians are living in their own land. |
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Duende
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Israel, the second-class bully, having learnt its tactics from the Great
Master: the US, is simply putting an end to the rather long ceasefire we've had in the region since the last bout of tit-for-tat killings. (Bush grants Israel the same right to preemptive strike, calling it 'self defence'). If Israel is also willing to complete the extreme Christian Right Wing agenda of America's rulers, they will merrily get back to work killing Moslems, full time instead of the part-time they've been working on. Beirut, Lebanon and Syria, this is all deja vue for those of us whose TV news screens were filled with images of explosions and hellfire in exactly these places in the 1970s. It was not settled then, so the nerves and patience of all have finally reached breaking point. War solves nothing, never has and never will, but dialogue is a long way from the Israeli agenda since the democratically elected party in Palestine took over. The most sickening thing is the ineffectiveness of the European Union who still use words of appeasement rather than direct condemnation of Israel's actions. Since Bush and Co abdicated all responsibility for bringing peace in the region, nobody has stepped in to fill the vaccuum and the post should be filled by Europe- most notably, Spain. I am beginning to suspect the US wants nothing better than conflagration in the Middle East as a way to destroy Islam, which is already viewed with suspicion by most of the West (tolerated implies you are putting up with something you really would rather not- that's why it doesn't work for long) Because of the rise in extreme fundamentalist violence world wide (much of it prompted by US actions in Afghanistan/Iraq) non-Muslims are running out of tolerance towards Islam, watching them kill each other in sectarian violence in Iraq reinforces all their prejudices: "look guys, they're killing their own brothers!" and sets the stage for a world wide revolt AGAINST Islam. How can we preach peace when we don't practise it? |
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Angel
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And with that, religion causes war I agree with Patty. I also think lets get rid of the weapons, lets melt them |
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Israfil
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Angela, The problem with ignorance is that the concept of "We are all human beings" is non-existence, and that, religious fervor superceeds this evident truth. |
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Patty
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I believe it is as the old song goes, "we're on the eve of destruction". EVERYONE had better get their acts together, show some maturity and brotherhood, AND willingness to "give and take" to stop our own demise. That's our only choice. Throwing stones from one culture/religion to another does ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD. We are killing each other! Is that what Allah/God wants? Or how many of us even care anymore. We are ALL HUMAN BEINGS. What does it take for EVERYONE to realize that???? I am sick to death of this blame game. Get on your knees and pray to God/Allah for forgiveness for the horrible words we have all spoken against our fellow human beings, and for the unspeakable acts we have committed. Then STOP HATING EVERYONE WHO IS DIFFERENT FROM YOU! That's the ONLY WAY we will survive. The choice is the destruction of life on this planet. You know, it really doesn't matter who started all this, centuries ago, but it surely is going to matter who decides to stop this hatred. THEY are the ones who will be truly blessed. Peace be with you.....
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Patty
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DavidC
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Maybe it is just me but Palestine does not seem to be the most important thing right now. Since the assasination of Hariri we have seen Damascus withdraw public support for Hezbollah, and now Hezbollah must act on their own recognition or be disgraced. Shiite Iran is taking it's place back as the popular Islamist leader state back from the Sunni Al-Qaeda mob.
Russia is announcing the beginnng of Pipelinistan through socialist Syria and Islamist Iran which could unite those opposing governments on a axis of greed (or pure survival). FRANKLY, I THINK EVERYONE - ARAB, ISRAELI AND WESTERN - COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT PALESTINE! I am frankly confused about a lot of this and am no international expert but it this is not the old Palestine/Zionist war all over again. This is a whole new animal. |
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