Which offends you more? |
Post Reply | Page <123 |
Author | |
Nausheen
Moderator Group Female Joined: 10 January 2001 Status: Offline Points: 4251 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Hello everyone.
Sorry to read that the discussion board is dying. Hope it is not suffering from any fatal morbidity. I have really been thinking regarding the 'IS' title to this terrorist group and how should we muslims react. Reading Tim's responses what I could think if us a rather funny example. You see, my son has a terrible handwriting, and when I tell him he should improve, and practice etc, he tells me there are few kids in his class who write even worse. I think its high time muslims faced the fact that these barbarians ARE calling themselves muslims, committing henious crimes in the name of islam, and accept that if Christians killed in 17th centuary in the name of jesus or jew killed in 2014 the name of Zion, does not free muslims of their responsibility towards this planet we cohabit. It is not Islam or the Quran responsible for what they are doing - but muslims are. In a prophetic tradition we are told that the Quran is either a witness for us or against us. Those who have claimed innocent lives in the name of Allah, Allah will soon make it clear to them. They will know and the Quran will stand as a witness against them. However, we as muslims have a responsibility towards world peace and safety of our children's future. We need to think and come up with solutions for peaceful and respectful co-existence. |
|
<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
|
Caringheart
Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Status: Offline Points: 2991 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Good post Nausheen. Nice to see you around.
I was recently put in mind of the following thought; Christians crushed the Inquisition... now will muslims crush ISIS (or IS as it is now called)? asalaam, Caringheart |
|
Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
|
Nausheen
Moderator Group Female Joined: 10 January 2001 Status: Offline Points: 4251 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Thank you Caringheat,
My passtime of late is Jordantimes.com - thru their news I gather their country is posing a brave fight. also several muslims countries are supporting them. Let us hope for the best. regards, |
|
<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
|
Matt Browne
Senior Member Male Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 937 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Nausheen, nice to hear from you again. As long as peace-minded Muslims do not accept that the Quran too shares the responsibility for what IS or Boko Haram is doing, we won't find a path toward peace. Our only chance is a new interpretation of the Quran, which reflects the level of human civilization of the 7th century, but not the level of the 21st century.
|
|
A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
|
Nausheen
Moderator Group Female Joined: 10 January 2001 Status: Offline Points: 4251 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Matt, a new interpretation of the Quran should also come from someone who is well versed in it. And how do you know people have not done this already.
However I dont think the interpretation should be formulated on the popular demand like the new world view of almost everything today. If misinterpretation of Quran has given birth to Boko Haram and ISIS I do not agree the verses of the Quran are to be blamed - rather I blame the people whose method of interpretation is wrong. Otherwise, one might as well say their intent was well meaning, but, only if the Quran did not have in it this verse or that verse, they would not have gone astray. |
|
<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
|
Ron Webb
Senior Member Male atheist Joined: 30 January 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Status: Offline Points: 2467 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
IMHO you need a reinterpretation of the hadith, not the Quran. You need to recognize that the hadith were never intended to be preserved for all time and were never intended to apply to modern Muslims.
|
|
Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
|
|
Nausheen
Moderator Group Female Joined: 10 January 2001 Status: Offline Points: 4251 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Thank you for your comment Ron.
Did you know that the deviants became deviants thru the route you suggest. They trashed hadith on their way while going astray from Islam. The pious are tolerant and easygoing towards others, while being strict with their own Islam they stick close to the hadith as well as Quran. You don't have to agree with me, but muslims need to go back to their roots in order to get back on track. However, there is a hadith that says this religion began as a strange thing (ie to most people the idea of monotheism and other teachings, as they were being revealed was a strange phenomenon), and towards the end of times it will again be a strange affair (ie if you are on the right guidance you will be considered strange). Edited by Nausheen - 10 March 2015 at 10:49pm |
|
<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
|
Ron Webb
Senior Member Male atheist Joined: 30 January 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Status: Offline Points: 2467 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
You call it deviant; I call it progressive. Interestingly, The Saint has just responded on another topic explaining that a hadith forbidding the eating of donkey meat was a temporary ban, not meant to apply for all time. And of course you are aware of the several hadith which forbid the writing down of hadith -- again, allegedly not meant to apply today. It seems like whenever Muslims find a hadith inconvenient, they label it as "temporary". Why all the special pleading? Isn't it more reasonable to acknowledge that all the hadith were just temporary? If it was an essential part of Islam then it would have been in the Quran. God promised (6:38) that He left nothing out. Why don't you believe Him? |
|
Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
|
|
Post Reply | Page <123 |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |