A timeline of US atrocities in Afghanistan

Gibbs wrote: Hufsah I think I'm done here. I understand your point and agree with some of the things you've said but since you seem to prefer to only hear your voice I will bow out. This is going to turn into a discussion where people *****and moan. You see, I can always google pictures and read articles about "collateral casualties" and I can always fault some things people do but an ultimate slap in the face to me is responding to me with long winded post of copy and paste pictures. I guess me telling you that I have friends who serve who gave me some knowledge of US military protocol was not good enough I see.

Any way, it was nice having conversation with you regarding this topic and listening to your side of it and just because we are in disagreement, does not mean I am not listening or trying to understand your point of views. I am expressing my opinions and you are yours.

Someone here is assuming that US and its allies are leading a crusaders army against all the Muslims with their Holy Quran and therefore cheering on the invading forces in the middle east, we only needed this one more excuse that can allow US and its allies to stay in opponent countries indefinitely causing death and destruction forever...........sigh



Edited by Umm Hufsah - 27 May 2010 at 5:14am

Hayfa,
Well, there seems to be plenty of evidence of human shields in Afghanistan. I am not talking about people living in villages, and I am pretty sure that US soldiers (etc) are not in the habit of firing on women and children deliberately.
I am not sure I understand your final comment. Do you mean Afghani's are dressing as civilians to confuse their enemy? I know some Afghani kids start fighting young, but NOT that young.

Certainly I know that on one attack earlier this year by the US etc..they gave the civilians a week(?) to leave the area that was going to be attacked. BUt that resulted in some of the so called Taliban moving to be with the civilians again. That's what is cowardly... hiding behind women and children's skirts.


http://muslimmatters.org/2010/02/17/bbc-afghanistan-taliban-using-human-shields-general/

"The teachings of the koran, the sunnah, and shari'ah law are absolutely hostile to precepts of personal freedom."

 

Wow, �sigh�; truly rhetoric has consequences.  The very teachings of Quran, Sunnah, and Shariah are the reasons why Muslims fight against Al Qaeda�s narrative, and  that America is anti-Islam and hates Muslims.   America is fighting a war against radical political islamist who use terror as a means to political goals.  To hold that Islam is against personal freedom only unwittingly supports the narrative from Jihadis that America is at war with Islam.  This is not the position of the American government.

 

To hold that Islam is against personal freedom by extension would mean all religions are against personal freedom.   Most Muslims want neither total theocracy nor a purely secular democracy and are happy where religious principles and democratic values coexist. 

 

Umm Hufsah wrote: In every war its important to consider the strategy like why a war is being actually fought? and what result is it seeking? How long it will go on? what is end result of one actions etc, in that respect US strategy is as I explained before is utterly flawed, if it can't stop itself from murdering civilians whether deliberately or not, than its no different from its enemy, US might as well join them.  However its obvious that US won't do that because it won't have any reason to stay in Afghanistan would it? If US is fighting war in Afghanistan to protect Afghans from Talibans then its responsible for every innocent person dying at their own hands. It can't turn a blind eye to the endless innocent people dying in this war for nothing and keep carry on pointlessly.

Not surprisingly, with all of your earlier false claims being exposed as falsehoods, you have decided to move on to copying and pasting from your usual tabloid propaganda site �infowars�. You know, one of the downsides to the web is that it can become a playground for conspiracy theorists and other, how shall we say� "less than discriminating" types who scour the web in feverish attempts to find something, anything to support a conspiracy. I recognized your copying and pasting from infowars. It�s one of the  ultra-leftist internet based tabloids. Do yourself a favor, dear, don't make your posts a total joke by linking to a website run by a bunch of frothing-at-the-mouth Stalinist wannabes.

Ultimately, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are about people being given the opportunity to determine their own fate, their own future. It shouldn�t be about the irrational contentions of the rulers-for-life, embittered islamist utopians (mullahs, self-hating islamists and islamist ideologues), who are willing to ally themselves with fascist and supremacist ideologies if it will serve their partisan agenda. The abovementioned thugs are ready to throw every ounce of fear, intimidation and callous hatred they have at everyday people who are risking life and limb to eke out a living. Self-hating islamists are looking to preserve the status quo of fear and oppression that many people would hope to eradicate. Why would anyone want to side with such vicious, ruthless Autocrats?

The Islamist agenda is crystal clear on what Islam's mission and goals are. Why aren't we? Are we so complacent in the assumption that everyone must respect the rule of law, equality, plurality, and other benefits of liberal democracy, that we are unable to conceive of entire cultures holding such concepts in utter contempt? The teachings of the koran, the sunnah, and shari'ah law are absolutely hostile to precepts of personal freedom. That's why the ruling mullahs, your Taliban heroes and the other brutish islamists you are flailing your pom-poms for will beat to a pulp and jail those who challenge their fascist agenda.

Islamic fear societies are increasingly crushed under their own dead weight of untenable claims of inerrancy and the maddening frustration that comes of its failure, which only becomes more apparent with the passage of time. Under rule of law with representative elections, the spirit of Democracy is forever born anew, able to adapt to changing times, to help shape those times and help make sense of them.