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If that's what you want to believe you go right ahead.



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Thanks for not disagreeing...
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Bismillah,

What amazing gyrations and nonsense!

Our basic beliefs are clear and there is no need for this type of dismantling of the Holy Qur'an for your own silly jokes.

Why don't you discuss things that people care about?  The point is to talk and find meetings of the minds for people of different faiths. 

Stealing, lying, cheating, are all disapproved of in our religions.  Is there something you truly want to understand, or are you looking for arguments?  It's so easy to pick an argument.  Why don't you look for mutual understanding and peacefullness instead?

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Originally posted by herjihad herjihad wrote:

Bismillah,

What amazing gyrations and nonsense!

Our basic beliefs are clear and there is no need for this type of dismantling of the Holy Qur'an for your own silly jokes.

Why don't you discuss things that people care about?  The point is to talk and find meetings of the minds for people of different faiths. 

Stealing, lying, cheating, are all disapproved of in our religions.  Is there something you truly want to understand, or are you looking for arguments?  It's so easy to pick an argument.  Why don't you look for mutual understanding and peacefullness instead?

Assalamu alaikum,

Well stated akhi.



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.....On earth as is in heaven...have you ever thought about about this part of the verse from the bible?

why on earth as is in heaven?

in heaven everyone is submitted to Allah, the angels for instance.

 on earth there are those who are submitted to His will more then others, and those most submitted to Him are the prophets, through them Allah leads the rest of mankind to a a higher level of submission to Him. The bad apples will fall off, till what remains is only the fit servants of Allah(the righteous will inherit the earth) on earth as is in heaven. Jesus is alive, Allah raised him Up to Himself.

Jesus was a beautiful creation from Allah, indeed a sign.

If someone made beautiful golden cup, and you were thirsty so he gave you to drink out of it, what would you think?

1.how beautiful the one who gives me to drink out of this beautiful creation he made. and thank the maker who gave you to drink out of it.

2.how beautiful this cup is. this is the most beautiful cup i ever seen, and drink from it and do not thank the maker of the cup but just keep staring at the cup and wonder at it's beauty.

3. Or stare at the cup and completely forget you were thirsty and thinking of the value the cup might have and how much money you could make out of it if you sold it to other people.

 

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Greetings Community,

 

I will take it that these comments are directed towards us�

 

.....On earth as is in heaven...have you ever thought about about this part of the verse from the bible?

why on earth as is in heaven?

in heaven everyone is submitted to Allah, the angels for instance.

 on earth there are those who are submitted to His will more then others, and those most submitted to Him are the prophets, through them Allah leads the rest of mankind to a a higher level of submission to Him. The bad apples will fall off, till what remains is only the fit servants of Allah(the righteous will inherit the earth) on earth as is in heaven. Jesus is alive, Allah raised him Up to Himself.

You are referring to these Biblical passages�

 

Mat 6:9  So, then, you should pray this way: Our Father who is in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name.

Mat 6:10  Your kingdom come; Your will be done, as it is in Heaven, also on the earth.

Mat 6:11  Give us today our daily bread,

Mat 6:12  and forgive us our debts as we also forgive our debtors.

Mat 6:13  And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil, for Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory to the ages. Amen.

 

By specifically referencing these passages you are attempting to link the �allah� of the Koran with God the Father, as stated in the Gospels.

 

Why is this�?

 

Is your �allah� a Triune entity�.?!

 

Secondly, you stated that Jesus is alive.  Of course He is Alive.  Jesus is God in the flesh�and, as such, he has always existed and can never change nor die.

 

Thanks for acknowledging this�

 

 

 

Jesus was a beautiful creation from Allah, indeed a sign.

Creation�?

 

Jesus is God in the Flesh.

 

Jesus is the physical manifestation of the invisible God.

 

Jesus� physical body was conceived of the Holy Spirit�as proclaimed in the NT and later copied-over by the authors of the Koran.

 

Jesus is not a creation.

 

 

 

Think on it�

 

 

 

 

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Bismillah,

AP is here to preach and evangelicize and cause arguments. 

 Please go to the chat rooms with the others who are there for the same things, and leave intellectual discussion amongst caring adults to us.

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Greetings herjihad,

 

Thanks for adding your commentary�

 AP is here to preach and evangelicize and cause arguments. 

Please go to the chat rooms with the others who are there for the same things, and leave intellectual discussion amongst caring adults to us.

It is clear that you have nothing to contribute to my posts, thus why so you feel compelled to slavishly reply to them�.?

 

Perhaps you had better take your own advice�and let others make their own informed comments�

 

 

Thanks�

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