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The Saint
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I knew there are lot of so called Christian preachers who preach on TV who use God's name to make money and pretend to be holy but why didn't Allah healed Mr Deedat? If he wasn't wicked man if he had all the faith then Allah should have heal him.
That is what you think. Allah SWT thought differently. But neither did he paralyze Mr Swaggart? |
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2Acts
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If you read the Injil you will see Jesus was more than just a messenger. He was The Christ Messiah -God The Son. |
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What did Ahmad Deedat say that mocked the bible?????
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whirlingmerc
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I would say, yes Jesus is and for a number of reasons.
One being that the prophets said about 25 times that there were many false shepherds but God himself will be the shepherd of His people and then one of the prophets said 'and I will take David and make him the shepherd of my people' (figuratively Jesus, the greater David to come) For many similar reasons I would conclude that yes, Jesus is the eternally generated image of God's idea of Himself whoo is also a person and the Holy Spirit is the eternally generated love between the Father and on who is also a person With that view of the Trinity, the Athenasian Trinity, there is majestry, power, love and community from one end of eternity to the other. Without it majesty and power are primary and love more secondary. Am I wrong? |
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The Saint
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Jesus PBUH was a great Prophet of God Almighty. And trinity is a big hoax and even illogical.
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Peace maker
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How can the bible be a hoax and the Quran be the truth then some where down the line someone has made a big mistake cause the quran was also writen by human hands.
Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.
He is the stone the builders reject, which has become the cornerstone.
Matt 1:21 She will give birth to a son , and you give Him the name Jesus because He will save His people from sins.
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. For everything in the world�the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life�comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever. 1 john 2:15-17 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God�s one and only Son. John 3:16-18 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:28 |
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The Saint
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How can the bible be a hoax and the Quran be the truth then some where down the line someone has made a big mistake cause the quran was also writen by human hands.
It is not how God Almighty revealed His messages to mankind, instead it is about safe-keeping and preservation of His word. Bible today, is not even seen by most Christians today, as the literal word of God. What you refer to as the Bible is a compendium of books written by men and acknowledged as such. Some books are anonymous. While there are a large number of books that were left out of the Bible because they were thought to be apochrypha by a pagan king. The Quran otoh, is a direct revelation to Muhammad PBUH and it was recorded as soon as a part of it wae revealed. Then, it was most uniquely learnt by heart by men who are called huffaz. There have always been hundreds and thousands and currently millions of huffaz who have secured the Quran in their bosoms. |
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Peace maker
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I told you the Quran was written by human hands, or it does not even matter who wrote it it is not from God it is from Muhammad and Allah was Muhammad and he was Allah he made his own Allah and misled the Arabs by telling them he received the revelation from the angel Gabriel what a big liar he was,Gabriel wasn't near Muhammad there was no prooof of Gabriel but Muhammad himself.
Muhammad's first so called revelation wasn't even written in first surah in the Quran Surah 96, 96 surahs after his other so called revelations this show you how bad the Quran was compilled and you want to point fingers to the bible.
The direct revelations to Muhammad came out of his own brains and other things that he have borrowed from the jews christains and mostly all islam rituals was taken from pre-islamic pagan rituals.
His first so called revelation was reveal to him in the month ramadan which was already and established pagan ritual the month of ramadan in which the pagans fast from dusk to dawn,pray five times a day and circumbulant the kabaa seven times,throw the devil with stones and done the tawaf this was done by the pagans long before Muhammad's time,He used the pagan example as a foundation to build his own religion and strenghten his diplomatic ties with the pagans.
This rituals was never practiced by the jews or the christians. Edited by Peace maker - 19 May 2016 at 8:21pm |
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