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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote candid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 October 2006 at 1:59am

West is simply interested in robbing the Muslims. There is no point in making peace with the West.

It will come back again at some other pretext.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 October 2006 at 3:10pm

Angela, the poor US President, Tony Ze Liar and the whole world today needs your plan. They all need someone to just throw them a shred of an excuse to get out of Iraq and now alo Afghanistan.

Please, be brave, we are all waiting for you.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ruggedtouch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 October 2006 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by candid candid wrote:

West is simply interested in robbing the Muslims. There is no point in making peace with the West.

It will come back again at some other pretext.

I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what the Muslims� are being robbed of and who is doing the robbing.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 October 2006 at 10:23pm

I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything. Then, kindly, do become aware by reading some serious books. West is not just robbing Muslims, but almost anyone and everyone. The poor and now badly bleeding Latin American robbed are not Muslims.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ruggedtouch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 2:50am
Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything. Then, kindly, do become aware by reading some serious books. West is not just robbing Muslims, but almost anyone and everyone. The poor and now badly bleeding Latin American robbed are not Muslims.

Has anyone else noticed that my own personal stalker is becoming even more desperate and pathological in his attempts to garner my attention? He's now gone to such desperate means as to answer on behalf of other posters.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whisper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 3:56am

He's now gone to such desperate means as to answer on behalf of other posters.

LTHOMWS!

Your ultimate dream of being stalked come true.

CHLTHOMWS!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Duende Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 October 2006 at 5:38am
Ruggedtouch wrote:

"I wasn�t aware that the West was robbing the Muslims� of anything.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what the Muslims� are being
robbed of and who is doing the robbing."

You might have a less rugged touch if you informed yourself about
Muslim's grievances before posting: this is a community here, you'll
find several regular posters who can confidently speak for most of us
when it comes to standing up for Muslim's concerns.

Since you seem to be having some trouble grasping today's reality,
here's some information for you.
From: "Grand Theft Babylon" by Ann Berg posted at www.antiwar.com

"Iraq is on the verge of ceding control of its oil reserves to American
and British oil companies. If all goes as planned, the oil giants will
have performed the heist of the century.

A little-known analysis by Greg Muttitt in November 2005 for Global
Policy Forum reveals the breathtaking earnings to be generated by
the "production sharing agreements" [.pdf] ready for signing the day
Iraq officially forms its new government. These agreements, which in
name imply revenue-sharing and state control over the underground
assets, in truth are vehicles so skewed in favor of Anglo-American
petroleum companies that they have no counterpart in today's oil
world.

According to Muttitt's conservative estimates, Iraq stands to lose
between $74-194 billion in these agreements over the life of the
contracts, which will most likely be in effect for 40 years. Instead of
the average rate of return of 12 percent generated by most oil field
development investments today, these arrangements will net
between 42 and 162 percent."

You can find more on the ongoing looting of Iraq (and hence thieving
from Muslims) being carried out by the Bush administration along
with countless private 'contracters' in Iraq at www.alternet.org
articles titled: Bush's Petro-Cartel Almost Has Iraq's Oil by Joshua
Holland

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Originally posted by Duende Duende wrote:

Iraq stands to lose between $74-194 billion in these agreements over the life of the contracts, which will most likely be in effect for 40 years.

That plan requires the Iraqi people to be obedient to their ruling class for the next 40 years. That is probably where the plan will go wrong. The Iraqis are not Christians. They don't "believe" that obedience to the ruling class is an obligation, religious or otherwise.

This whole thing will backfire. The misadventure of the American ruling class in Iraq, the war's human and economic costs to the American people, will lead to questioning the legitimacy of this ruling class, in the US itself.

History might simply repeat itself, depending on how "expensive" the current war on Islam will turn out to be. When the Russians really had enough of the war with the Germans in 1917, they decided to start killing their elite instead of killing the Germans.

The Vietnam war came close to stir a revolution in the US, and the war in Afghanistan brought the Soviet Union to its knees.

It would be enough that the current war on Islam leads to taxing the wrong people more than they are willing to accept, or that a crash in the dollar empoverishes the wrong group of people, who do not necessarily connect to the idea of "America is the best", such as the Hispanics, to trigger a violent revolt in the US itself.

If the Iraqis, Afghans, and Somalis maintain the pressure on the American military effort, sooner or later the American ruling class that instigated these wars, will see this whole thing boomerang back to them, in their own backyard.

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