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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ak_m_f Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2006 at 10:46pm
Originally posted by superme superme wrote:

In case some of the muslims have not heard this - this topic that cicely brought is not new nor it is an outsider design. This so called "Satanic verses" topic�came from the muslim sources itself, by Tabari - the famous historian.�


The point of this story is, that The Prophet (Pbuh) was so cornered while in Mekkah with the Quraish resisting his message furiously and with only handful of followers after number of years. Because that he cave in to their demand - in recognizing their beloved gods as intercessors also beside God. Jibril noticed the addition of two verses in chapter 53, and he removed them.


Anyway that is how the story runs roughly, a bit more or less does not really matter, I never worry with stories pretty much. If you want to master it - it is always availabe through the search engines.


Aside�from this, the�first 10 verses will�make us think of what it is.




already discussed, read my previous post in this topic
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote superme Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2006 at 11:04pm

Originally posted by ak_m_f ak_m_f wrote:

already discussed, read my previous post in this topic

Oop sorry, typical one of the day.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Srya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2006 at 11:23pm

Salem,

I have been doing alot of research, studying etc and I came accross something on a website that to me did not llook anti Islamic. However, I just read something like I will paste below. Then, I got out. Because to me it just didn't sound right. It bothered me.

Cicley wrote:Muhammed wanted to kill himself and thought he was going mad? this is according to exerpts from his biography. Just because this site is not by muslims does not mean its claims should be dismissed; rather, they should be addressed and clarified if they are incorrect or taken out of context.

I am wanting to get a better understanding of the life of Muhammed (pbuh) than what I have. It is so upsetting though that there are so many anti islamic websites out there.For someone like me who is new, who wants to learn about Muhammed (pbuh) and the get a better understanding of what kind of man he was; gets clouded by these awful masked websites. 

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Walikum us Salam sis Suzanne,

So whats your argument about? The 'something' you pasted is simply an opinion without providing any reference to it. Is that they way of doing research? I don't think. Kindly assure references very deligently to avoid later embarrassments in your own views based on 'fictatious' references.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Srya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2006 at 12:12pm

Salem AhmadJoyia,

I have no argument. Where is that coming from?I was merely making an observation; and YES what I pasted I know that it is simply an opinion. Did I say otherwise? Or, did you not see that those are not my views they are from another member?

You typed: Is that they way of doing research? I don't think

I am assuming you typed this in response to what I put. I will paste here: am wanting to get a better understanding of the life of Muhammad (pbuh) than what I have. It is so upsetting though that there are so many anti Islamic websites out there. For someone like me who is new, who wants to learn about Muhammad (pbuh) and the get a better understanding of what kind of man he was; gets clouded by these awful masked websites.

I can not say any clearer than what I typed.

I will suggest something to you what you posted except with references replace with reading other members posts and understanding what they are saying than taking offence to it:

Kindly assure (references) very deligently to avoid later embarrassments in your own views based on 'fictitious' references.

 

 

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Oh! Did I offend someone? I am really sorry for that. I never intended but gave an honest suggestion. In doing so, I felt that repeating someone's fictatious opinon is same as promoting his views. Also, these didn't merit a bit of consideration at all. Kindly see that the originator of these comments has not pressed the arguments on it other than leaving it for others to pick themselves to have discussion  on it. Best we can do, in such situations is to ask him/her to provide the reference for his info. This act alone, I think, would be sufficient to make him realize his/her mistake. Peace.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Srya Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2006 at 2:25pm

Salem AhmadJoyia,

You typed:Oh! Did I offend someone? That is a rhetorical question. Because it's obvious on your reply; also since you responded twice to my posts you should know my Name is Suzanne. But, I would like for you to know your apology is accepted anyway. Thanks.

You typed:" I felt that repeating someone's fictitious opinion is same as promoting his views. "

"Same as promoting his views"???

Please WHO is the person you are referring to? What views are you referring to? This is also a possible rhetorical question to me. Considering my replay to your post. My opinion my efforts to take the time to explain to you what was clearly obvious I hope has not gone overlooked again. However, once should not assume. So, before I continue on this issue. I will wait for your response. Please.

You also typed:" Kindly see that the originator of these comments has not pressed the arguments on it" This is a suggestion to me to take notice. However, where in my post did I imply otherwise? Again, I was making an observation. Second time reinterating this.

I find this interesting what you typed in the next sentence. You choose to use the word "pick". But, brother are you not doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing? Because, all I did AGAIN was make an observation (3rd). I did cut and paste also typed my opinion. From viewing your posts in this thread you have also done the same with opinion and cut & paste. So, please clear this up for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mishmish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 April 2006 at 3:04pm

Assalamu Alaikum:

Sister Suzanne, there is a wonderful book called: AR-RAHEEQ AL-MAKHTUM (The Sealed Nectar) by Safi-ur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri.

It is a biography of the Prophet's (PBUH) life and is very detailed.

 



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