Your advice, please

a_k_mf stated:
"ALL OF SUDDEN Osama Bin Laden shows up on TV saying that he will attack the USA again and that more attacks are COMING IF BUSH gets Re-elected."

He has never said such a thing..... it is a pity you believe all the media states!


Osama Bin Laden:

�The situation at the land of the two Holy places became like a huge volcano at the verge of eruption that would destroy the Kufr and the corruption and its' sources. The explosion at Riyadh and AlKhobar is a warning of this volcanic eruption emerging as a result of the sever oppression, suffering, excessive iniquity, humiliation and poverty.�

Full speech can be found at [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1022331]

Sheikh Bin laden shows great wisdom within the words above, for he gracefully explains the source of what you deem is the no-good. At no point is he admitting to ordering any iniquity, rather simply explaining the inevitable results of man made policy.

If you posses any contrary evidence, clear proof he has ordered any terrorism, I will gladly read over that evidence, for a propaganda myth is what I call terrorism.


What he actually said was that it didn't matter who the American public voted in, for both were essentially of the same agenda. Did you know 'Kerry' belonged to the same masonic fraternity (ie the 'skull and cross bones')?


a_k_mf stated:
AND THE BEST PART is that Security is restored and we're on the offensive to DESTROY the people that want to attack us."

No one wants to attack you, but you wish to DESTROY anything that threatens you. If you really think that Al-Qaeda is responsible for every terrorist act that happens in the world, then i feel sorry for you.

In reality even though your Presidnet declared the Iraq war over, do you not recall how easy it was for the Americans to take over? That is because of the military tactics involved, the army dispersed because of the overwhelming power of the initial force. Since then they continued in fighting an occupation, for propaganda purposes the war is over, in reality it has never ceased to be over!    

Can you not perceive that if a person were starving they might steal?

Can you not perceive that crimes done against people creates zeal?

Confusion existed before I came along


Now they hath humiliated me to the point where I hath been forced to beg

Know that unless thou embrace their particular message thou will not be fed



I am not a violent person, nor into violence will I be led

I simply hath compassion to meet the problems of those whom hath made this pledge


So if thee wish to strip me of mine audacity please remember their pledge

And that alone thine effort hath not led to a peaceful success

Bismillah,

Brother, what help do you seek from this discussion board?  What exactly do you need to receive or accomplish?  What can we do to help you?

OBL's message may be simple, but to kill innocent people is haram.  That is why I hate him along with GB.

OK, there is a lot to go through at once�..

Rami, whether you accept it or not, I as a revert have become very confused by your comments. I am no closer in knowing whom to support (or not), and I still feel as though I am a pawn in a game of - who does not have to change! For it is impossible for people to help others innocently, when always in the background they wish you to support them as a pose to their contemporary. If there were consensus this would not have to be, as all there would be would be people inviting to the only message.

My pain and confusion although means nothing to you, for you cannot perceive the pain you have put me through.


Khadija,

Where do I start?

However, since someone started it (i.e., you) and then Osama made such an error regarding Einstein�s spiritual beliefs, I felt it important to point out the mistake in his thinking so that other�s who didn�t know about Einstein would not merely assume that Osama�s position regarding him was correct.   
   
E=MC2 is a formula that neglects and separates the force of the Lord, how can one talk about the relationship between energy and matter (times light squared), while neglecting the One Force that controls all the others?

Einstein puts God in His proper place�before all else�the Creator of Allah things�The Sustainer of existence.

Did Einstein not fail in his mission? To unite the energy forces with gravity? Hence proving One Lord? E=MC2 is inadequate in explaining that Force we call God. Are you aware of the details of that Force? (ie are you aware of other than E=MC2?) Then how is it you have the authority to question my response?


On a different note, Osama, please explain to me how you went from being �A.J.� a person interesting in becoming a Muslim and wanting some advice regarding problems which arise due to divisions (sects) in Islam to being someone who is not only a �well educated Muslim� but one who touts a love for Osama bin Laden as the only Muslim worthy to trust entirely?

Can I not be self-read in Islam, while still not understanding the division of each clan?

By saying that �it is for his [Osama bin Laden�s> cause I would give up my life with certainty!� implies that you have placed Osaman bin Laden above Allah. You go as far as to say, �I would gladly blow myself up your face.�   

Please do not put words into my mouth! Rami was asking me to become of him, I was merely stating I would rather choose bin Laden, that is because I am not confused by his message, and he like me was neglected by calling for unity.

You say you are fighting against division; however, after reading you evolution (through posting under the guise of multiple names), I simply see you making the same mistake you accuse others of making.   

I am all alone and been forced to beg for help, I feel like I am on the verge of a break down and all you can do is question why I have changed my name! You really want to know?

I am desperate for help but am offered nought but words, words that neglect unity and hence confuse me, so I become very down and despondent and decide to leave, only then to end up even more alone, so I come back even though it doesn�t feel like home!

So in other words I don�t fit in here, but have no where else to go, I am advised to choose a path which feels right to me, and then when I do all criticise me. If you don�t want me to speak, well all I asked for was some practical help because non-Muslim�s hath rejected me.

Each time I honestly share these things with people, I allow the devil to hurt me because I wear my heart on my sleeve.




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