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Whisper
Senior Member Male Joined: 25 July 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4752 |
Posted: 06 November 2005 at 1:46am |
Angela, anyone without even two brain cells to rub can be patriotic, but it's extremely hard to think globally - that's the exact need of the day - to fight stupidity and fascism. I haven't read your post. It's just a bit too long and seems to be a copy and paste job from some typical Washington Gang propoganda. Could you just enlighten us, please, as to why a WHODUNNIT public enquiry has not thus far been held - despite considerable demands from US academics, eminent writers, thinkers and including General Wesley Clark and whole range of other people? Such enquiry will solve a lot of riddles and will be more in the American public's interest than of anyone else in the world. You will have to forgive us, it's extremely sad and not entirely our fault BUT we fail and also now refuse to believe any word put out by your government or government affiliated agencies and persons - after a few recent dosees of extremely colourful lies. You would agree (if you stepped out of your suoer US Patriotism for less than two minutes) that only fools and horses would take anything put up by the US serious after our great Secretary of State's Power Point performance at the UN for the Iraq war. It will benefit the American people to think: if your government could lie to you on such matters, push 2,000 young American men and women to hell (or heaven since some have now started to sell them off as shaheeds!) and terminally damage over 22,000 of their own young blood for life - forget about the 100,000 or so dead "others" could this government not produce an incidence to staep towards this war?? I am a flyer. I got my PPL long before someone ever allowed me to drive the car out of the estate. I have many friends in the US, many of them flyers, some also connected with the USAF. I have checked - the jets were NEVER scrambled. And, for a whole of 58 minutes. There are many other holes, but you will see through them once you stopped being just an American and start a few human cells in you. |
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rami
Moderator Group Male Joined: 01 March 2000 Status: Offline Points: 2549 |
Posted: 06 November 2005 at 3:10am |
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They recovered the passports and ID's from the site but not the flight recorders You reasoning is simplitic to say the least, you can not account for what occured in the crash by simple reasoning that the plane exploded therefor everything went boom. "It's extremely rare that we don't get the recorders back. I can't recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders," Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, told CBS News in 2002. Survivability RequirementsEvents that would damage the recorders sufficiently to make them unreadable are extremely rare. NTSB spokesperson Ted Lopatkiewicz said that he couldn't recall a domestic case before 9/11/01 in which the recorders were not recovered. 5 The recorders are designed to survive the kinds of impacts that happened at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The storage medium of each recorder is located in a protective capsule, which must be able to withstand an impact of 3,400 Gs (3,400 times the force of gravity). Additionally, each must also survive flames at 2,000 F for up to 30 minutes, and submersion in 20,000 feet of saltwater for 30 days. Typically, to increase their chances of survival, the recorders are located in the tail section of the aircraft, which usually sustains the least impact in a crash. 6 |
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Deus
Senior Member Joined: 13 July 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: 06 November 2005 at 10:17am |
Anyone seen the documentary "Loose Change"? It presents some very logical questions, like: How could a indestructible metal protected blackbox completely be destroyed, while passports made up of paper survive?
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Whisper
Senior Member Male Joined: 25 July 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4752 |
Posted: 06 November 2005 at 12:25pm |
How could a indestructible metal protected blackbox completely be destroyed, while passports made up of paper survive? Perhaps you never saw "Forest Gump". In the titles, the feather keeps dropping, dropping and dropping for ever, in slow motion. Or, perhaps the Saudi passports are made of some indestructible material. Whatever. Don't you think it should be in the best interest of the American public to at least know WHODUNNIT? Specially with the deceptive track record of this administration + the laughable Intel capability. Other than that what they think or don't think on this matter does NOT really matter to us. |
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b95000
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1328 |
Posted: 07 November 2005 at 10:57am |
This is also for Rami who is suggesting the same ridiculous theory and by extension what folks? That the US slaughtered its own citizens? First of all the black boxes are not 'indestructable!' Secondly the fires inside the WTC reached very high temps and were fueled by the building fires as well and raged for hours. Thirdly consider the compression of the plane into the buildings and then by the buildings' collapse. Fourthly, the papers and other items can get jettisoned out of the windows as did millions of papers... These things are not hard to understand if you think about the physics of the problem. Some wished for conspiracy theory that does not comport with facts or physics is IRRESPONSIBLE. The alternative hypothesis that you are trying to suggest is unbelievably heinous and to do so you need more than just wishful thinking..give us some FACTS folks for your incredible and senseless theories that you are having crazed dreams about stuffing in Americans faces.. Instead of trying to cram stuff down our throats and into our faces...let's deal with reality and facts and go from there....the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 do not hold water. The account that out of several thousand jetliners in the air 4 were hijacked and flown into buildings murdering 3000 people in one hour (that's a rate of 72,000/day) is what ACTUALLY HAPPENED and no amount of dreaming, wishing and hoping can will it away.. Edited by b95000 |
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Bruce
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. |
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Whisper
Senior Member Male Joined: 25 July 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4752 |
Posted: 07 November 2005 at 12:27pm |
Does multiplying it really make it more impressive? To sensitive people even one death is too many. We hold no desire of convincing you or the need to win some votes in the states at all. It does NOT effect us one way or the other. We know where we stand on this and other issues with the US. It will be in your own best interest, as a nation, to know what actually happened. Good luck, no one has any need to push anything down your throats.
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b95000
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1328 |
Posted: 07 November 2005 at 12:45pm |
Multiplying gives people a sense of the scope..besides you argue in
favor of some sort of a coverup re: 9/11, so how can you be talking
about 'sensitive' and not...please - if you were sensitive you wouldn't
be carting out these cockeyed, mouth frothing theories in dishonor to
those killed that day as you try to implicate Bush
obsessively...'sensitive' - right..
"It does NOT effect us one way or the other." So why would you even suggest anything about 'sensitivity' when this is your true sentiment? "We know where we stand on this and other issues with the US." Oh really? And where is that Dubya? Edited by b95000 |
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Bruce
Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. |
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Angela
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555 |
Posted: 07 November 2005 at 1:01pm |
Frankly Whisper, the article I sent to you was written a while ago and had nothing to do with 9/11. It was simply a scientific article on black boxes. Of course, since you didn't read it, you wouldn't know that. Funny how you base your arguments without checking the facts.
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