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Tom123
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Posted: 06 November 2007 at 5:35am |
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AI get their information from Afghan human rights groups, and there are Amnesty International members in Afghanistan as there are almost everywhere in the world. You discount Amnesty because instead of being one-sided and speaking out against abuses committed only by Americans they also speak out against those committed by the Taleban. US soldiers (since you consider them a reliable source) have also spoken about Taleban abuses as have Afghans. I used to tutor a boy in grade 11 from Afghanistan who fled to Canada as a refugee and he had some things to say about the Taleban that also confirmed their cruelty towards Afghan people. Cristo Vive! - Tomasz |
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It's hard to believe, but that's a fact. I wish you could come and hear from the victims. You may not know, there are many safe houses established by Humanitarian NGOs for those girls to escape the death and take shelter. Their identity and stories are not publicised for their safety. There are Afghan human rights agencies, who provide them legal support. They are a few lucky minority who can manage to escape. For Zena, that's a penalty as per the Sharia, so there is no problems with that. But unfortunately most of the men gets away with it. Do some research on 'Honor Killing' in Afg. Hope you will get some info. But any way, we should not attribute it to 'Taliban'. These are verymuch centuries old social practices. Salam |
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Sawtul Khilafah
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I agree with all your post except here you exaggerated. Neither the Taliban nor other Afghans kill their daugheter if she refuses to marry someone. There have been cases where women/girls have been killed for Zena/fornication (even for fornication before marriage despite it being against Islamic law to kill her) but I have never heard of a case where someone is killed for Not marrying someone else, either by the Taliban or anyone else. Edited by Sawtul Khilafah |
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I am not a supporter of Taliban, neither I do support the continued US and EU invasion of the country under useless puppet govts. But I do tend to agree with Swat on the issue: My 3 yrs+ stay in Afghanistan gives me a perfect opportunity to understand the reality on ground.
well i don't like to make it much lengthy, it is painful to see the innocent people suffering and then being killed by the US/EU bombs and being labeled as terrorists. Unfortunate are those who witness the truth and can do nothing. Salam |
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Sawtul Khilafah
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I don't care what Amnesty international say as they can hardly ever tell what's going on, living in another part of the world far away from the wars and bombings. There are hundreds if not thousands of different ways and sources to prove that USA kills civilians (many US soldiers have confessed it, thousands of Afghans and Iraqis have witnessed it, not to mention many in other countries like Japan). |
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The Taleban does indeed kill civilians, and their crimes are reported by the same media and human rights groups who report US crimes. I have never heard of any reports about the Taleban bragging about killing civilians. Of course neither they or the Americans would do so openly. They both love to cry crocodile tears for the victims of their policies and go ahead and continue killing. If you discount reports of Taleban killing civilians as bogus, you should also do the same with reports of US soldiers killing civilians. In most cases, these crimes are reported by the same sources. Amnesty International is openly critical of both of these sides, and is neither 'pro-Taleban' or 'pro-US government'. They have taken a lot of flak from human rights abusers on all sides for speaking out against their atrocities. I have no reason not to trust them. Cristo Vive! - Tomasz |
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The truth is, you don't KNOW wether they kill civilians or not, but the point is, according to Western Media (actually according to almost all mainstream media, Western or Eastern) the Taliban are "proud" of murdering innocent civilians and children and they supposedly brag about it. So the fact that the Taliban DENY killing civilians is significant because it shows that the image of Taliban as created by the Governments and Media is false, and even if we suppose that they kill innocents, the fact that they deny it shows that at the very least they aren't proud of it. |
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Bush says that his soldiers don't kill civilians either. Both the US, and Taleban militaries have horrific human rights records. US soldiers and Taleban fighters alike have murdered innocent Afghan civilians. Cristo Vive! - Tomasz |
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