Contrasting Qur'an and Ahadith of Muhammad. - Event Date: 17 November 2012 |
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Friendship
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Posted: 30 November 2012 at 1:43pm |
Assalamu alaikum. Honeto.
Yes, indeed I am far because I took hold of Yusuf Alis book as early as 1959 and since then have been studying the Qur'an. If you want understand Qur'an you have to read books written on the different explanations on the interpretation of the Qur'an. There are about 48 different subject matter related to interpretation of the Qur'an. Can you buy this book:ISBN: 9781467883931. Friendship. |
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Assalamu alaika aka 2x2.
There are many verses in the Qur'an. Choose from them the one that convinces you most. Is Qur'an 4:65 sufficient? Is this verse explained by this hadith:? لألفين احدكم متكئا على اريكته ، يأتيه الأمر من امرى مما أمرت به او نهيت عنه، فيقول: لا ادرى، ما وجدنا فى كتاب الله اتبعناه. فإن السنة جاءت مفسرة للكتاب، فمن اخذ بالكتاب من غير معرفة بالسنة،زل عن الكتاب كما زل عن السنة If you are convinced and you are a sincere Muslim without the means to understand the Sunna, desiring to enter paradise, you should read that book explaining the Sunna of Muhammad Rasulullah in as-Salat- Friendship. Edited by Friendship - 28 November 2012 at 4:47am |
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"Therefore knowing the Sunna... is more important than reading the Qur'an."
And how exactly do you know this? Is there a Hadeeth to this effect?? Is there a verse in the Quran that said this??? If not, aren't you afraid you may be ascribing words to Allah (SWT) that He never said???? |
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honeto
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Friendship,
you are making things difficult for yourself and trying others to follow you in that. We can elaborate about things but I see you are gone too far. I understand, there are things in the Quran that are made plain and simple, and yet there are things about which we need explanation and there are those about which only Allah knows. Allah says in the Quran: 54:17 (Y. Ali) And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition? Things that are basic to our belief are made simple, if you can read or listen, you will understand them as Allah meant for example: 112:1 (Y. Ali) Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; 112:2 (Y. Ali) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 112:3 (Y. Ali) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; 112:4 (Y. Ali) And there is none like unto Him. Easy to understand the core of that surah, of course you can write books on explaining it, but just those four verses will make sense as well. Hasan Edited by honeto - 27 November 2012 at 12:14pm |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Matt Browne
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Nausheen, Caringheart, I don't think Mizra Baig is alluding to zero. What she probably means is "very few" over the past decades. Some of the few include Muhammad Yunus, of course. You will find her article here:
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2007/0126-Baig.html Edited by Matt Browne - 27 November 2012 at 6:32am |
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaika Honeto. Let us be civilized like the
Jewish Rabbis. For example when we
discussed about the veil this is what the Rabbi sent me: The prohibition
against removing one's beard is found in the Torah. You can learn about that
here: According to the teaching of Muhammad, I am to keep silent on what they said after reading. The problem of you and others is you seem not to have known what is Islam through reading what we received from the Sahabas. I gave you references as my source of knowledge. Ideally, you are to compare my source of knowledge with what is in your books of reference. When you referred to Yusuf Ali, I went further than you giving you the reference number. Probably you do not have Maududis translation. You have no right to disagree with me on what you have no knowledge. Please let us respect knowledge and those with it as explained by the holy apostle. If you still do not understand Qur�an 2:159, read the Tafsir, Al-Mizan by Allama Tabatba�i Vol.2 pp.254-258. Just tell me your source of knowledge that the Sahabas and their pupils explained that the Arafat day is on the 9th. Every hadith must be explained. Why is it there are 6 different compilers of hadith literature? I kept on praising the efforts of the management of this forum, for it should be a forum watched by 750 million believers daily who want to be upright. We must know and act according to the Sunna. But the opposite seems to be the case. Know that it is only Allah who will reward one�s effort for I might have joined this forum to be praised, get support and fame. I am fully aware of the what Muhammad Rasulullah told Ali ibn Abi Talib: It is better for one man to believe from you preaching than to be rewarded with one hundred red camels. Remember that the majority according to the Qur�an will never believe. Yes, the Shari'a (of Muhammad Rasulullah) was (is) established on the behavior of the Levi clan of the Children of Israel in Madina and this lasted for a period of six years. When they were moved to Khaybar, the experts on analyzing the reasons behind revelation noticed that the Shari'a on crime etc seized. Revelation then became centered on disbelief and hypocrisy in the last four years. Now analyze the revelation from that period to the last prayer of the holy apostle. You will see that. Please from now on give me your reference. Friendship |
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honeto
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Friendship,
I agree with some of the things you say, but some things you say do not make sense and are in contrast to clear message of the Quran. For example in the same reply from you that I have addressed before there is another sentence you wrote tha makes me uneasy, you wrote: "Therefore knowing the Sunna that is how Muhammad lived in Madina with the Levi clan of the children of Israel and the neighboring believers in Najran who called themselves Christians is more important than reading the Qur'an." I do not know where you get these ideas from beacuse I have never heard of them before. I understand it is important to know and have good relations with other, but it has to be based on some principles. And for a Muslim what can be a better source of these principles than the Quran and Hadiths with clear distinction that the Quran is the word of God and Hadith is word of man. What you are suggesting seem absurd and a deviation from what Allah has clearly stated in the Quran that it is a guidance for mankind. Hasan |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Ron Webb
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Thank you for so nicely illustrating Mirza's point!
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