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Ringer
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To promote that the Earth is required by the Bible or Qur'an to be 6,000 years old (or anything less than a few billion) is dangerous since were people to believe that they would have to accept that the holy book is a lie once they understood the evidence for the extremely ancient Earth.
Causing or Encouraging people to give up on the Holy Scripts (either Bible or Qur'an) through listening to your lies or ignorance is a form of Shirk and according to the Qur'an the liar would be destined for Hell. The same applies to telling a lie that the Earth is not spheroidal etc. -- you would be encouraging people to become disbelievers and according to the Qur'an, sending them to Hell along with yourself. Do you really want to go there? Edited by Ringer - 11 May 2016 at 2:00am |
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whirlingmerc
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If God wanted to make the world and stretch out the stars and universe with his little fingers in 6 days He most certainly could if he wanted.
But there is a more stunning claim than that. The New Testament claims the world was made from , through, to by and for Jesus Christ. Edited by whirlingmerc - 09 May 2016 at 5:57pm |
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2Acts
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AaronKM
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As Salaam Alaykum brother. Having read most of the Quran, here is my take on it: The Quran contains allegory. It says so in the verse 3:7. Most of this refers to verses that have more than one meaning. However, I am under the impression that some of the stories are allegory as well, meant to teach us something, and not necessarily a literal account of a historical event. Look at the underlying themes from Adam, for example. Made from clay, angels prostrated to him, gave in to sin, expelled from paradise. My take on this is that it was meant to teach us about man, and what man means to Allah. We don't have to stick our fingers in our ears and yell "lalalalalalala" every time science contradicts a literal interpretation. In this sense, science actually teaches us about Islam. |
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Emettman
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Rarely have I seen such a closed, fixed, position so firmly held on no solid ground at all. No Satan required at all You who rail at people believing without thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt; have you brought thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt against the flat earth or young earth models of earth and the solar system, or the cosmos as a whole? Have you seen how many wild assumptions and extra entities have to be brought into play (or ignored!) to make these young or flat perspectives even seem to work? I've twice been round the world. Looking at a flat map the air-flight leg times don't match by such a large degree that I don't need close detail I've been to Australia twice. THE STARS ARE WRONG. (That's to a northern hemisphere dweller, on a spheroidal earth.) On a flat earth the stars should look pretty much the same, looking up from Australia or the UK, because that's looking in almost the same direction. Think about it for ten seconds. It may be that a *absolutely* literal reading of terms seems to imply a flat earth, but this requires a ruling brought in from outside as far as I can tell. No metaphors, similes or pictorial language anywhere in the Qur'an? I'd be very surprised. But the world is round, and it spins, and gravity works. (On a flat earth how do you get much more variation in day length through the year as you get near the North pole? The effect is clearly recorded in discussion on its effects on Ramadan at such latitudes.) Edited by Emettman - 27 January 2016 at 4:06am |
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Abu Loren
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A spinning globe Earth is a satanic lie! It doesn't make any sense at all. The Earth does NOT spin 1,000+ miles. |
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La Ilaha IllAllah
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Abu Loren
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Carbon dating doesn't work. Full Stop. Period. |
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La Ilaha IllAllah
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Emettman
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It gets even worse as you think about it.
(so somebody must be swallowing without examining) No satellites since with no supporting mechanism they would just crash down onto the flat earth, as apples fall from trees. So what's keeping the sun up? Worse, the sun is supposed to be moving in a circle: just on a whim? What force is creating this circular path, since moving objects with mass don't do that, having a natural preference, as Newton observed, for straight lines, unless acted upon by a force. The sun staying up and moving in circles for no reason is hilarious. Or would be except for anyone taking it seriously. |
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