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To promote that the Earth is required by the Bible or Qur'an to be 6,000 years old (or anything less than a few billion) is dangerous since were people to believe that they would have to accept that the holy book is a lie once they understood the evidence for the extremely ancient Earth.

Causing or Encouraging people to give up on the Holy Scripts (either Bible or Qur'an) through listening to your lies or ignorance is a form of Shirk and according to the Qur'an the liar would be destined for Hell.

The same applies to telling a lie that the Earth is not spheroidal etc.  -- you would be encouraging people to become disbelievers and according to the Qur'an, sending them to Hell along with yourself.

Do you really want to go there?



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If God wanted to make the world and stretch out the stars and universe with his little fingers in 6 days He most certainly could if he wanted.

But there is a more stunning claim than that.   The New Testament claims the world was made from , through, to by and for Jesus Christ.

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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:


This world in which we all live in is relatively young and not billions of years old as the fiction that is masquerading as science tells us. The first great civilisation that sprung up was the Chaldean civilisation in and around the area that is in the present day Iraq. This is where the earliest form of writing is discovered, and suffice to say this area is where the Noah's Ark landed after the flood (actually the evidence points to near Turkey) but we can picture the survivors moving to adjacent areas as the community grew larger.

I know that the Pseudo scientists will come back with the 'evidence' of the Earth being billions of years old as they can 'prove' it with their flawed dating techniques, but what they have is not an exact science. They will always try to push their atheist views on the unassuming public but people will always discern what is right and what is wrong as the need to have God in our lives is much stronger than a need to obey satan.


As Salaam Alaykum brother.

Having read most of the Quran, here is my take on it:

The Quran contains allegory. It says so in the verse 3:7. Most of this refers to verses that have more than one meaning. However, I am under the impression that some of the stories are allegory as well, meant to teach us something, and not necessarily a literal account of a historical event. Look at the underlying themes from Adam, for example. Made from clay, angels prostrated to him, gave in to sin, expelled from paradise. My take on this is that it was meant to teach us about man, and what man means to Allah.

We don't have to stick our fingers in our ears and yell "lalalalalalala" every time science contradicts a literal interpretation. In this sense, science actually teaches us about Islam.
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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:


A spinning globe Earth is a satanic lie! It doesn't make any sense at all. The Earth does NOT spin 1,000+ miles.


Rarely have I seen such a closed, fixed, position so firmly held on no solid ground at all.

No Satan required at all

You who rail at people believing without thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt; have you brought thought, scepticism or fair, questioning doubt against the flat earth or young earth models of earth and the solar system, or the cosmos as a whole?

Have you seen how many wild assumptions and extra entities have to be brought into play (or ignored!) to make these young or flat perspectives even seem to work?

I've twice been round the world. Looking at a flat map the air-flight leg times don't match by such a large degree that I don't need close detail
I've been to Australia twice.
THE STARS ARE WRONG.
(That's to a northern hemisphere dweller, on a spheroidal earth.)
On a flat earth the stars should look pretty much the same, looking up from Australia or the UK, because that's looking in almost the same direction. Think about it for ten seconds.

It may be that a *absolutely* literal reading of terms seems to imply a flat earth, but this requires a ruling brought in from outside as far as I can tell.
No metaphors, similes or pictorial language anywhere in the Qur'an?   I'd be very surprised.

But the world is round, and it spins, and gravity works.
(On a flat earth how do you get much more variation in day length through the year as you get near the North pole? The effect is clearly recorded in discussion on its effects on Ramadan at such latitudes.)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2016 at 11:41am
Originally posted by Emettman Emettman wrote:



Do you really believe this flat earth idea?
I credit you with more intelligence than that, so lean towards the likelihood of you playing a game.
I call deliberate Poe.

Chris.



A spinning globe Earth is a satanic lie! It doesn't make any sense at all. The Earth does NOT spin 1,000+ miles.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Abu Loren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2016 at 11:38am
Originally posted by Matt Browne Matt Browne wrote:



Mentioning carbon dating in this context shows a lack of knowledge in this matter. The topic is the age of the Earth, not the age of a preserved iceman eating plants a couple of thousand years ago containing C-14 atoms. Perhaps you've never heard of elements such as argon and lead and where they come from.


Carbon dating doesn't work. Full Stop. Period.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Emettman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2016 at 12:20am
It gets even worse as you think about it.
(so somebody must be swallowing without examining)

No satellites since with no supporting mechanism they would just crash down onto the flat earth, as apples fall from trees.

So what's keeping the sun up?

Worse, the sun is supposed to be moving in a circle: just on a whim?   What force is creating this circular path, since moving objects with mass don't do that, having a natural preference, as Newton observed, for straight lines, unless acted upon by a force.

The sun staying up and moving in circles for no reason is hilarious. Or would be except for anyone taking it seriously.

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