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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2016 at 12:41am
Originally posted by simple simple wrote:

No. The bible is right. The Gabriel of the bible is not the Gabriel that appeared to Mohammed.


Any evidence to support that or is it just because you say so?

You will need something external to the Bible to support the Bible.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote simple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2016 at 10:49am
Yes, of course. The main way dates that are old are determined is by a belief that our laws existed also in the past, so therefore the ratios of isotopes must have been all a result of those laws. Prove the forces and laws were the same in the far past? Otherwise you have religion, not knowledge or real science.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote simple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2016 at 10:46am
No. The bible is right. The Gabriel of the bible is not the Gabriel that appeared to Mohammed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 August 2016 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by simple simple wrote:

Originally posted by Ringer Ringer wrote:


To promote that the Earth is required by the Bible or Qur'an to be 6,000 years old (or anything less than a few billion) is dangerous since were people to believe that they would have to accept that the holy book is a lie once they understood the evidence for the extremely ancient Earth.


Not true. What evidence exactly are you talking about?

Quote Causing or Encouraging people to give up on the Holy Scripts (either Bible or Qur'an) through listening to your lies or ignorance is a form of Shirk and according to the Qur'an the liar would be destined for Hell.

Not if you were wrong and they were right. By the way both bible and Qur'an could not be holy books. Only one could be. The other has to be very very unholy.


Do you consider the Earth to be less than billions of years old?

If so how do you explain the fossil record? How do you explain the stone my house is built from? Every time I walk over my door step I see the layers of sandstone which were once sediment at the bottom of a sea or lake. It has taken a long time for those sands to be compressed, then had errosion cut away all the other layers of stone above them which were deposited later and then for that stone to be exposed far above the level of the sea.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim the plumber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 August 2016 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by simple simple wrote:

Originally posted by airmano airmano wrote:

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Only one could be. The other has to be very very unholy.
I'm glad you wrote "could" instead of "can" or even "must".

This still leaves room for the third option, that:

Both are very, very unholy.


C'est la vie: Airmano
Or a fourth...you may be. The point was though, that when we hold up the two books, only one could be from God. The bible is all about the plan of salvation for man from the creation of the world till the end of the world. Jesus fulfilled the prophesies, and could only have been God in human flesh. According to the other book, He was just some sort of prophet. Only one book could be right.


Or since we all agree that one of the books is wrong, they could both be wrong. Just was we agree that all the other holy books are wrong.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote simple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2016 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by airmano airmano wrote:

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Only one could be. The other has to be very very unholy.
I'm glad you wrote "could" instead of "can" or even "must".

This still leaves room for the third option, that:

Both are very, very unholy.


C'est la vie: Airmano
Or a fourth...you may be. The point was though, that when we hold up the two books, only one could be from God. The bible is all about the plan of salvation for man from the creation of the world till the end of the world. Jesus fulfilled the prophesies, and could only have been God in human flesh. According to the other book, He was just some sort of prophet. Only one book could be right.
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Only one could be. The other has to be very very unholy.
I'm glad you wrote "could" instead of "can" or even "must".

This still leaves room for the third option, that:

Both are very, very unholy.


C'est la vie: Airmano

Edited by airmano - 25 August 2016 at 2:13pm
The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote simple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2016 at 1:15am
Originally posted by Ringer Ringer wrote:


To promote that the Earth is required by the Bible or Qur'an to be 6,000 years old (or anything less than a few billion) is dangerous since were people to believe that they would have to accept that the holy book is a lie once they understood the evidence for the extremely ancient Earth.


Not true. What evidence exactly are you talking about?

Quote Causing or Encouraging people to give up on the Holy Scripts (either Bible or Qur'an) through listening to your lies or ignorance is a form of Shirk and according to the Qur'an the liar would be destined for Hell.

Not if you were wrong and they were right. By the way both bible and Qur'an could not be holy books. Only one could be. The other has to be very very unholy.
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