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   Dearest 2 acts,

None of the Prophets AS or books of religion condemned slavery. So it was allowed back then (re: Quran 70, 22-30). As for Hadith on this topic couldn�t find anything related in Sahih Bukhari, perhaps if you could quote an extract please.

What is fact, accepted definition is a thing that is known or proved true. Since neither you nor I was around in time of Muhammad SAW we rely on the accounts of men and women who were and on those who subsequently wrote on what they said or heard. I believe the correct terminology is you believe Muhammad SAW was so and so. Non-Muslims choose to believe certain books because if they didn�t, well they�d all have to revert. Similar we believe Jesus AS was a prophet and not son of God as per Quran and Hadith of Muhammad SAW. I was not there to witness it, it cannot be proved or observed nor is it generally accepted, therefore I believe it but it can�t be a fact. 

For every book you bring that degrades the Prophet SAW I will bring one that praises him. No person will have any hard evidence to prove for or against the Prophet SAW. So say our witnesses are upright citizens (historians) giving equal testimony, there is no hard evidence, we would have no choice but to turn to reason and logic.

That I see as a weakness in Christianity, re: �welcoming the degradation� of the name of Jesus AS and Mary AS. Even Muslims scholars condemn this and defend the honour of Jesus AS and Mary AS. In this item of faith, Christianity and Islam differs considerably, you will turn the other cheek while we say no, you cannot bad mouth these great Servants of God. 

Honesty can cause offence, it�s based on intent. Look at what Trump said about the Mexicans. Statistically, penitentiaries are filled with minorities, so he was being honest and factually correct but look at the offence he caused.

No fear of discussion but is it fair, read both sides of the life of Muhammad SAW, analyse your sources i.e.: characters of the men who write them and don�t regard as fact something which is impossible to prove. I can however understand that from an early age Christians are taught to stay away from the Quran and Sunnah, so if you were told something your whole life, it�s only natural that you will regard it as true. Muslims are encouraged to read all scriptures and revere all Prophets AS. These discussions have been going on for centuries, Surah 109. Al-Kafirun �1. Say: O disbelievers! 2. I worship not that which ye worship;3. Nor worship ye that which I worship.4. And I shall not worship that which ye worship.5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 6. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.� Only when Jesus AS descends and says he is a Muslim will this matter be settled. 

I don�t see the relevance of discussing/not discussion Muhammad Him SAW as holding back Islam from developing. I do however see too much liberal thinking creeping into the church. Its seems the church�s desire to please man at the expense of God is the major cause of its disintegration. God�s law is systematically being altered to cater for all of mans whims and fancies. 

Take homosexuality for example. Completely forbidden in all major faiths however I see Sects of Christianity as folding in to allow these practices in stark contrast to God�s Will. Is this the freedom of thought and speech you allow? Is this what you regard as development? Is our duty as people of faith not to save mankind from the whisperings of Satan? I�d much rather have my Islam remain in medieval era instead of changing one command of Quran and Sunnah. .

Getting back to �facts� about Muhammad SAW. So let�s try a different avenue, your opinions are no doubt from non-Muslim sources? What you won�t find is much about Muhammad SAW life pre-Islam from non-Muslim sources. Even Wikipedia states he was upright, honourable and trustworthy. Because back then he wasn�t a threat and they couldn�t find anything derogatory to say about Him SAW. As discussed above lets use reason and logic to analyse the life of Muhammad SAW. Muhammad SAW came from noble tribe of Quraysh. He was known as Al Alim, the trustworthy one. Nicknames were earned that time and there many reports of His honesty and truthfulness. He only married one woman who requested him to marry her. An intelligent, wealthy businesswoman. Why would an eligible bachelorette choose a man who did not respect woman? No reports from even non-Muslim sources that he so much as hurt anyone pre-Islam. He didn�t partake in any of the pagan customs. His SAW customers loved dealing with him which made him a very successful businessman. 

Now if we turn to psychology, Sigmund Freud contended and most psychologists agree that personality and character gets more enhanced as we age. We don�t grow up being virtuous and then suddenly became tyrants. Perhaps a significant event could alter it, but at the time of revelation Muhammad SAW had a very comfortable existence and no �big� events would explain his character change to warrant the derogatory remarks. 

Take care and kindest regards,