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honeto
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CAringheart,
no offense but it seams, you went backwards in all this time and wasted your chance of learning and growing in knowledge. When I said 124000 prophets, I meant these are prophets from God, it does not include any others. It include prophets like Noah, MOses, Abraham, David, JEsus and Mohammed (pbut). Jesus (pbuh) was himself a prophet, how could he know other than what God told him. And the Bible is not authentic word of God anyway. There is no original Gospel that Jesus preached, so we cannot trust what some men wrote centuries later as versions of Gospels. Those are some of the facts I hear from former Christians, who by God's grace have accepted the truth. Hasan Edited by honeto - 02 May 2013 at 1:57pm |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Caringheart
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"Yes there were 124000 prophets according to Islamic teachings, and it is
true according to the Quran we make no distinction between them."
There are those of us who, in keeping with the exhortations of Yeshua Himself, do make a very important distinction. I am quoting someone else here: Jesus doesn't teach that all prophets had the same message... Jesus prophesied that there will be false prophets who will deceive many. I boldened some in the verses below. and, according to the guidance in the Biblical scriptures, written by author of the book called John; 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.So anyone who believes in what Jesus taught, has a discrepancy to deal with. Salaam. Edited by Caringheart - 30 April 2013 at 1:52pm |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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honeto
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Webber,
when we put things in wrong order in our head that's when it makes us less sense. Yes there were 124000 prophets according to Islamic teachings, and it is true according to the Quran we make no distinction between them. Just like their is a distinction between the first man and prophet, Adam (Pbuh) there is special distinction that prophet Mohammed (pbuh)bears he was the seal of the prophets, the last of the chain of prophets that came to guide humanity. Also for those of us who live after he came as a prophet follow his example and the word of God that came through him puts him closer to us then previously sent ones, as we copy his example. But our love and respect for Jesus, Moses and Abraham (pbut)is in no way less, as they were all Allah's prophets and love ones. They are dear to us so much, that many Muslims name their son's after them as well. Musa (Moses), Ibraheem (Abraham), Daood (David) and Essa (Jesus) are some of most common names among Muslim men, of course Mohammed and Ahmed are more common for the reason I explained above. Humanity has been living for thousands of years and in far places, so it is not hard for me to understand that God sent prophets in all eras and times and we also believe that God sent prophets in all people not just to Bani-Israel, even those who were living in far areas then others. Hasan |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Webber
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There should be no punishment. If there is no compulsion in religion then there should be no intimidation for a person searching for answers. God is a very personal God, why leave Him to the explanation of others? Especially those who insist you believe something you don't understand. While they should be saying, "May God bless you in your search, then please enlighten me for I am stagnant."
Islam, being the religion perfected, since Adam... 124,000 prophets taught Islam. The Quran says we make no distinction, yet the final hurdle in becoming a Muslim is to place Muhammad above the rest. Unfortunate, we don't have 124,000 accounts, as they would all carry more subjects and wisdom on them. We have but a few. To insist evey man stick to one prophet only is to say you can only have this much of God. |
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nospam001
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In that case, whose hearts would He() seal? Only those ex-Muslims who continue to reject Islam despite knowing the truth. But no sane person would ever do that, surely. So we end up with an extra punishment reserved by Allah() for those who are already insane. |
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God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.
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maazalisyed
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There are many instances specially in Malaysia and Indonesia, where some Muslims accepted other faith because of lack of Islamic knowledge transferred by parents etc. But when preachers reach there they turn back to Islam, and there is no punishment... If a Muslim rejects Islam or leave his faith, there is always as option of forgiveness, as soon as he comes back towards Islam.
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God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.
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God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.
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