CRUCIFIED OR CRUCIPLAYED

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   iec786 wrote: Judas the traitor was crucified in the place Jesus.If you read the book you would have known this... I strongly suggest you take time out and read the book.

Of course I've read the book.  I would be quite the fool if I was to make claims about what was in the book, if I hadn't read it.  Right?

Your recent comment causes me to repeat the comment I made on April 12 within this thread:

I suspect you haven't read Deedat's book and have no idea of what it contains, correct? 

Deedat's book defends the "swoon" theory of the crucifixion, which states in brief:

Jesus was crucified on the cross. 
He sufferred and became unconscious. 
The Roman soldiers thought he was dead. 
He was buried in a tomb. 
Then his disciples came and resuscitated him.
I don't see how Deedat's theory can be reconciled with what is written in the koran.  And Deedat certainly didn't accept the theory that Judas was crucified in place of Jesus.

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Reepicheep Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2006 Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reepicheep Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 June 2012 at 7:42am
	iec786 wrote: Judas the traitor was crucified in the place Jesus.If you read the book you would have known this... I strongly suggest you take time out and read the book. Of course I've read the book. I would be quite the fool if I was to make claims about what was in the book, if I hadn't read it. Right? Your recent comment causes me to repeat the comment I made on April 12 within this thread: I suspect you haven't read Deedat's book and have no idea of what it contains, correct? Deedat's book defends the "swoon" theory of the crucifixion, which states in brief: Jesus was crucified on the cross. He sufferred and became unconscious. The Roman soldiers thought he was dead. He was buried in a tomb. Then his disciples came and resuscitated him. I don't see how Deedat's theory can be reconciled with what is written in the koran. And Deedat certainly didn't accept the theory that Judas was crucified in place of Jesus.

honeto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 20 March 2008 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2487	Post Options Post Reply Quote honeto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2012 at 1:13pm
	Reepicheep, I want to be clear, according to the Quran, God raised him (Jesus pbuh) up to Himself. For me the chapter is closed there. Who was put to the cross, we can discuss that since it was a common method for Romans to kill those condemned to death. So there were so many people who were cursified in those days. It will be hard to get to know each one of thems names. Only Allah knows. Hasan
	The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

Reepicheep Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2006 Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reepicheep Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2012 at 3:38pm
	So, Honeto, you believe that it was NOT Jesus who was put on the cross?

honeto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 20 March 2008 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2487	Post Options Post Reply Quote honeto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2012 at 1:20pm
	Reepicheep, to answer, the verse clearly says: " Surely, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him". And since the Quran did not mention any other person being crucified by name, we are not to speculate. Only Allah knows. Love you, Hasan
	The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

iec786 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Status: Offline Points: 508	Post Options Post Reply Quote iec786 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2012 at 8:52am
	Yes it did and Judas the traitor was crucified in the place Jesus.If you read the book you would have known this.Remember at the most critical juncture the Bible tells us that they all forsook him and fled.No one of his was there to witness what had happened.I strongly suggest you take time out and read the book.

Reepicheep Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2006 Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reepicheep Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2012 at 11:05am
	iec786 and honeto, what is your explaination of the following passage from the koran: ...and their boast, "Behold, we have slain the Christ Jesus, son of Mary, an apostle of God!" However, they did not slay him, and neither did they crucify him, but it only seemed to them [as if it had been] so; and, verily, those who hold conflicting views thereon are indeed confused, having no [real] knowledge thereof, and following mere conjecture. For, of a certainty, they did not slay him: nay, God exalted him unto Himself... surah 4:157-158 Did a crucifixion take place? And, if it did, who was crucified if not Jesus? Edited by Reepicheep - 04 June 2012 at 5:35am

honeto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 20 March 2008 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2487	Post Options Post Reply Quote honeto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2012 at 8:57pm
	I have read and watched Br. Deedat on various topics and his evidence is pretty strong. I do not see anyone sucessfully debating against him. Like brother ice says, let us debate if any one have any proofs against him or his work. Hasan
	The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

iec786 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Status: Offline Points: 508	Post Options Post Reply Quote iec786 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 April 2012 at 10:33pm
	When the writings of Deedat contradict the Koran Show it to us. I was Deedats student.stop being childish Grow up. If you feel so strong about the debate let us debate the book,if you have the gall.