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DavidC ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Male Christian Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: Florida USA Status: Offline Points: 2474 |
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Touche, my friend ![]() |
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Christian; Wesleyan M.Div.
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BMZ ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852 |
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Annie, Thanks for your words of wisdom and your moral suppot extended to brother Israfil. I have only a few comments: From you: "Welcome to the club. The Baptists would probably condemn me too. Muslims condemn me. Jews condemn me. Look to the New Testament. What does Jesus say?" Jesus said, "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." Jesus also said, "But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgement for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." Thus according to Jesus, people shall have to achieve a high level of righteousness. That is the key word here. No righteousness, no entry to heaven. The second part is self-explanatory.
From you to Israfil: "Keep your faith in God and let Him take care of the rest." That was really beautiful. God Almighty knows our weaknesses but yet is ready to forgive and still gives people a chance to turn to Him and repent sincerely, which is a prelude to a peaceful world one day.
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BMZ ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1852 |
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ABS67, Assalaam Alaikum, Thanks for the compliments and I am glad to see a fellow Singaporean here. Best Regards BMZ |
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herjihad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2473 |
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Bismillah, We are glad you said it here also. Many of us will appreciate your poignant, heartfelt words. Peace
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Israfil ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
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Well this is the problem I have with that mindset because who are we to judge others based on our own religious criterion? Exactly my point. Recently I was in a discussion with another Muslim about the reliability of translation. He told me that the translations that we have in other various languages are interpretations because in the original content of Arabic it is unchanged therefore when trying to translate, requires an interpretation to fit the proper meraning of translated term. Although in some ways agreeable I feel that it takes away the motivation of reading any Holy doctrine because of the translated terms is considered not up to par with the language which was revealed to the prophet. Of course its good to understand the original context but the spirituality of the message resides within the meanings not the words themselves. However no matter how a Western Muslim such as myself (if I can call myself one) looks at it, there is always a counter argument from another Muslim in defense of this...Religion more and more becomes unappealing to me whenever I hear this.
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Muslima ![]() Guest Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 562 |
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Brother Israfil, Arabic is the heart of Islam. The Bible and the Thora have been changed and so the Koran cannot be changed. Anyone can learn Arabic brother. This is the language that God chose and the Message is for all. Maybe you need a break brother. Too many ideas and too much thinking can be too much for you. Islam also comes from the heart, this is about faith. You need to feel the Iman. All the best brother, Muslima |
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Allah Ou Akbar!
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ak_m_f ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3272 |
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I am not gonna learn some new language to understand quran, I have it in english & I can understand it. |
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Aquinian ![]() Guest Group ![]() Joined: 09 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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Language is a human invention. |
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