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b95000
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"Um, Bruce, Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11."
====================== Um, Angela, no one has proven that Saddam had operational links to 9/11. But does that mean that he did not? He has been proven to (1) oppose the US by sponsoring terrorism against the US abroad (for instance in Prague at the Voice of America facilities), in opposing the US and the world in 1991 and thereafter, in trying to assassinate a sitting US president, et al. Furthermore, it is clear that Saddam had extensive ties with Islamic terrorist groups, including al Qaeda. There are many detailed instances of his potential ties with the planners and perpetrators of 9/11. None of these have been conclusively proven and so you want to blithely lecture me on how ridiculous this notion is? ======================== First of all there is no conclusive, OPERATIONAL link
between Saddam and AQ re: 9/11 but there is enough evidence that exists that
such a connection cannot be blithely dismissed. And in fact the 9/11
commission has not done so, only stating that no operational connection has
been proven. There is much question about Muhammed Atta's movements among
Iraqi intelligence agents in Prague, though, and other interactions between
terrorists and the Iraqi intelligence service in Malaysia in 1999 -
specifically the actions of Ahmed Hikmat Shakir. Shakir is Iraqi. "In the days following the [9-11-01] attacks, world leaders expressed sympathy and solidarity with Americans. The list of well-wishers included longtime enemies such as Cuba's Fidel Castro, Libya's Moammar Khadafi, and the ruling clerics in Iran. There was only one exception: Saddam Hussein. As distraught relatives searched for missing loved ones near Ground Zero,
the Iraqi regime openly celebrated. To the strains of triumphant, nationalistic
music, Iraq's state-run television network replayed the spectacular images of
the two airplanes crashing into the World Trade Center. Some of the key elements addressed in the book are the extent that Saddam had nefarious contacts with terrorist organizations. Saddam openly supported Palestinian terrorist groups and it's clear he had high level contacts with al Qaeda.. ========================= Again from The Connection: "But by the time the Iraq War began, the evidence of Iraqi links to al Qaeda went well beyond a few dots. It was a veritable constellation. An important participant in the first al Qaeda attack on American soil, the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, had been given safe haven in Iraq. Both bin Laden and Saddam had repeatedly voiced their desire to kill Americans. CIA Director George Tenet reported at least eight meetings between high-level Iraqi intelligence officials and senior al Qaeda terrorists. At least twice, the deputy director of Iraqi intelligence met bin Laden personally. In its 1998 indictment of bin Laden, the Clinton administration cited an "understanding" between Iraq and al Qaeda whereby bin Laden agreed not to agitate against the Iraqi regime in exchange for help on "weapons development." Fresh intelligence indicated that Iraq had provided training to al Qaeda terrorist on poisons and gases. Senior al Qaeda associates were operating openly in Baghdad before the war."Edited by b95000 |
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Whisper
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I think, let's stick with Gaad told him to do so. That's the best so far. The link with OBL is a dead duck!
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b95000
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"The link with OBL is a dead duck"
It's true, that's the conventional liberal and crammed-down-our-thoats wisdom. It's clear upon reading and research that Saddam and Muslim extremists were much cozier and complicit and collaborative (for mutually beneficial reasons) than anyone on the left would care to talk about... I and many others choose not to disregard this context. |
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Bruce
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Whisper
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It will be much easier and a happier situation if some humans sat up in different corners of the world and just agreed that some idiots did make a mistake (near enough a war crime sort of a mistake) of duping the American people. It's no fault of yours, the whole lot looks a bit dodgy. Would you buy a second hand car from, say, Donald Rumsfeld, GWB or Dick Cheney. I won't mention Condi Rice out of sheer pity for her brutalised childhood. If you go deeper you will see all had terribly sad childhoods, why else would they seek power? (if they didn't feel so powerless) The 21st century will rise as the century of the people with brand new structures than we know. |
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Or is this the thread i ran from according to you Whisper, see they all look similar to me.
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Whisper
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Welcome back. Learn to read they will look exactly what they are. You have NOT substantiated your charges against me. You have not apologised to the Board for lying to them. I have yet to meet a more shameless Inventor of the Koraan. |
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b95000
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What on God's green earth are you talking about now? |
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Bruce
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b95000
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You, of all people, should know that this is not an easy prospect under the best of circumstances, let alone under such dubious a situation as Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden in conjunction with 3,000 people killed in one hour... |
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