The Muslim side of the story by Ex-U.S. diplomat

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PLENTYWOOD, MONT. - Dave Grimland spent nearly 30 years as a foreign service officer - "telling the U.S. side of the story," he says - in Bangladesh, India, Cyprus, Turkey and other nations with large Muslim populations. He wrote ambassadors' speeches, arranged cultural gatherings, and more than once hunkered down as angry mobs gathered outside the embassy to protest American policy. 

Now retired and living in rural Montana, Grimland is once again telling a side of the story - only this time, in quiet pockets of the Big Sky State, he's trying to tell the Muslim side to non-Muslim Americans. 

"I'm going to ask you, at least for this evening, to try to put on a pair of Muslim glasses and see what the world looks like," Grimland said one recent night to about 40 ranchers, farmers and others in the basement of the county library near the spot where Montana, North Dakota and Saskatchewan meet. 

Outside, it was snowing and 16 degrees. The nearest mosque was about 120 miles away, in Regina. Many in the audience said they had never met a Muslim other than Plentywood High School exchange student Alisher Taylonzoda, from Tajikistan. 

For two hours and 40 minutes - including a brief break for cider and baked goods - the Montanans listened intently as Grimland covered a sweeping amount of history and made a case that the vast majority of Muslims are like the great majority of Christians, Jews or Buddhists. 

"No worse; no better," he said. "They want peace. They want to live their lives." 

A soft-spoken man of 63, Grimland has traveled to dozens of churches, schools, small-town gathering halls and Indian reservations. 

He brings along a black roller suitcase crammed with books, magazine articles and photocopies of slightly blurry maps, timelines, and "further study" reading lists for those interested in the history of Islam. 

Talking to a dozen people there, 40 here, as many as 75 elsewhere, Grimland hardly expects to change the world. But he does feel a calling. 

"I'd been frustrated ever since 9/11 by listening to comments [about] the backwardness of Islam, about the religion's responsibility for the 9/11 tragedy, versus the actions of a small number of Islamic extremists." 

The Muslim Side

And so, Grimland said, "I just thought maybe I could try to help people who haven't traveled, who haven't had the benefit of having to know this stuff because it was part of their job." 

He didn't come to Montana to give lectures on Islam. He came here to retire. 

After the peripatetic life of an embassy public affairs officer, he and his wife, Kathleen, a former UNICEF officer in India, moved in 1995 to Columbus, about 35 miles west of Billings. They have a 15-year-old son, Michael; Grimland also has a daughter, Debra, 36, in Atlanta. 

Grimland and his wife built a house on land they bought in 1990, after friends visiting India from the States showed them photographs of the Montana property. 

After the 2001 terrorist attacks, as he watched television news and took in what he describes as irregular coverage of the Muslim world in local newspapers, Grimland felt that Montanans were being given little true sense of that world. 

"Islam, for most of us, didn't really even register on our personal radar screens until Sept. 11, 2001," he said. 

"And since then, we've been assaulted with generally negative, often very violent images of the religion." 

Grimland does not remotely justify terrorism. 

He does try to explain what motivates jihadists, and why some Muslims don't condemn the violence. 

"Many Muslims do perceive the U.S. as decadent and degenerate," Grimland told the gathering here, referring to Janet Jackson's exposed breast in the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show and TV's "Desperate Housewives." 

When he filled in as a substitute history teacher at the Columbus high school, he said, he was shocked at how sexually suggestive some of student attire was. 

Many in the audience here in Plentywood, seated on folding chairs, nodded. 

Still, when it came time for questions, many also seemed to express polite skepticism about the Muslim world's desire for peace. 

"These moderates you're talking about - is there ever going to be an outcry from them, or do they secretly agree with this?" asked Betty Overland, a local banker. The "this" was the jihadists' violence against Americans. 

Grimland said that there were moderate Muslim voices but that they rarely got media coverage.

Bennie Lund, 78, a retired Plentywood elementary school teacher and wheat farmer who also once ran the local General Motors and Dairy Queen businesses, said he had a question. 

"I was wondering about this plan to send 7,000 Iraqis over here now," said Lund, referring to a Bush administration plan to provide asylum from worsening violence in Iraq. 

"I'm wondering whether that's a good idea or not at this particular time," continued Lund, saying that some refugees might secretly harbor an inclination to violence toward America. 

"How quickly can they be sent back?" he asked. 

"Well, these are people who have worked with us, some of them," Grimland said. "It might never be safe for them to return. We have an obligation - " 

"Well, they're going to have to be scrutinized very well," Lund said. "That's just common sense." 

Lund and his wife, Ann, said they had come to Grimland's lecture because they were curious to hear the perspective of an American who had visited so many foreign countries - something they had never been able to do. 

Neither of them had ever even obtained a passport. 

"We've always worked; we've always been busy," said Ann Lund, 74.

"We never did have time to go to Europe or any of those places." 

Grimland's low-key, low-tech presentations are backed with small grants for travel and other expenses from the Montana Committee for the Humanities.

Most everywhere he goes, Grimland seems to make it a point to listen as well as to speak. 

While speaking on the Fort Peck reservation for the Sioux and Assiniboine tribes, he asked to meet with local leaders, just to get a sense of what was going on. 

"I spent a lot of time abroad," Grimland explained over breakfast one morning at the Buckhorn, an eatery in tiny Poplar, Mont., with ministers and tribal leaders. "I still have a lot to learn about my own country." 

An hour or so later, Grimland found himself an invited guest at a weekly meeting of the 15-member tribal council. 

The leaders grilled him. 

"This war in Iraq, the problem seems like it's tribal, definitely tribal," said Rick Kirn. "We know a bit about tribal conflicts. 

"I'm not sure Bush was getting good advice on that when we went in." 

The discussion turned to the Islamic religion. 

"You know, a wise man once taught something to me," said council member Roxann Bighorn. "He said there are as many ways to pray as there are blades of grass. 

"So we don't denigrate anyone else's religion." 

The subject turned to long-standing grievances. Another council member, Floyd Azure, pointed to a large framed print behind the chairman's seat. 

It depicts Mt. Rushmore - and above Washington, Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Lincoln, the faces of four Native leaders hover in the clouds: Chief Joseph, Sitting Bull, Geronimo and Red Cloud. 

The presidential carvings in the mountain, Azure said, are "a total slap in the face to the Sioux people. 

That's sacred ground to the Sioux. If I had my way, they wouldn't be up there."

Grimland said he first got the idea for his talks when the head of adult-education programs in Columbus asked him whether there was something to offer besides "the usual programs on computing, knitting, welding, yoga, etc." 

"I thought out loud with her [and] fairly quickly came up with the idea of a course on 'basic Islam.' I certainly wasn't trying to convert anyone .... I just wanted there to be a better understanding of the religion."

Sam Howe Verhovek is a Times Staff Writer. He can be reached at [email protected]


  Category: Americas, Faith & Spirituality, Life & Society
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Older Comments:
SALEEM FROM USA said:
a man's soul and Koran has the same source. human soul tries to cling on to it.
2007-04-13

DAWUD H. MUHAMMAD FROM PHILIPPINES said:
I am an American Muslim living in the Philippines. We need in this day in time as many people speaking out about Muslims makes no difference if they are Muslims or non Muslims. 9/11 and this war in Irag has changed a lot of peoples views towards Muslims.
2007-04-10

MOHAMMAD SHAFIQUE FROM CANADA said:
The world would have been finished or destroyed by now had
there been no good people on the earth. So far I remember just
before Saddam Hussain was hanged one of US ex Ambassador to
Iraq was asked in a TV programme to give his view about
Saadam and his reign and to my utter surprise that courageous
personality has the courage and believe in him to tell that Iraq
was better under Saddam rule and it was one of the strongest
economy amongst Middle East countries. So there are some
courageous and honest person in USA and definitely they are in
majority like Dave Grimland. This personality will never back of
from telling the truth. No doubt despite all adversity truth will
prevail and Islam will flourish until the end of this world no,
power can stop it. May God bless you and give you the wisdom
to continue to tell the truth about Islam.
2007-04-09

SYED FROM INDIA said:
After reading this it seems there is lot of ignorance about Muslims and Islam in rural America, why not big Muslim organizations and american Muslims send good speakers to this country sides of Amrica with Islamic information and this is their duty.
2007-04-07

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Bankston. It doesn't matter if grimland is a muslim or not. Many muslims are not qualified to talk about Islam anyway. In'nama al'a'amaalu bil ni'yaat = the true core of a deed lies in the intention of the doer. This is Quranic teaching. We must thus respect the soul of the man who could very well be much closer to the Creator than anyone of us. Who knows but God? I personally see this man no lesser than a messenger of God.
2007-04-06

IDRIS BANKSTON FROM USA said:
As salaamu alaykum.
I'm sure this Dave Grimland means well but,
is he really qualified to tell the
Muslim side of the story???
I can appreciate what he is doing. I'm not sure
if a Muslim talking to these folks would be
listened to as closely.
May Allah smile upon him and his family for
trying to maske a difference.
Peace and Blessings
2007-04-06

DEANNA FROM USA said:
My daughter married a muslim a year ago, I too was apprehensive at first, due to the differences but as I live with them and see that we really all have the same goals in life-Peace is priority in all our lives, in every race there are good people and bad and no one has the right to pass any judgement except for god himself, and none of us are GOD. Everyone should be given the same chance to be viewed as a human being, that's what we all are and not one of us is any more special than the next. We should all remember a great saying:
The past is History
The furture a Mystery
Today is a gift, that's why the call it the Present!
2007-04-05

HUSSAIN AHMAD FROM QATAR said:
I would say that Grimland is doing a great service to humanity. I firmly believe that most of the people who harbour hatred against Islam and Muslims haven't lived with Muslims or haven't read about Islam.
2007-04-05

ROGER SMITH FROM CANADA said:
Thank you for a such a nice article, heart warming and full of hope. I recently went to the USA for a business trip that I am have been doing for last 15 years. I have never been so negative and deprest after this trip, every where I went all the business people I met talking totally out of context religion. In business you do not talk religion or politics but without knowoing us they keep talking us mean words about a religion that has a follower one out of five. I asked them if they are all never travelled out of the US let forget to a Muslim country zero knowledge about the religion or its founder they just talk meanest of the mean, I would say worst than a muslim extreamist, they are business people the elite of the society, so we have a problem. Their source of knowledge about a culture or religion is FOX news and CNN what would you expect more? America has a serious problem and the bubble is just getting bigger, I would not be surprised what happened in Germany under the Nazi rule. It is absolutely wrong to say bad about some one without knowing it fully. I have been very upset since than I feel no hope America will learn, the controlled media is just poisonous making it worst every day, but the problem the government supports it so gain for its justification of unjust war in middle east. They talk about 3000 American soulders death and 3000 in World Trade Centre but they forget about 600,000 in Iraq and 120,000 Afghanistan killed by them. None the Iraqis are Afghanis asked them to go there. Muslim blood is cheap and media covers all the facts the common folks does not know it. This is sad that America is going down to drain faster than any other great civilization went in the past. This is pity but a endless cycle, when the leaders lie to go for war and covers it with another lie and citizens just does not care, this is what happens, Germany did not organize World War 2 in a day or a month it went with a gradual process, the worst we have not seen yet.
2007-04-05