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U.S. Muslim religious council issues Fatwa against terrorism
The Fiqh Council of North America wishes to reaffirm Islam's absolute condemnation of terrorism and religious extremism.
Islam strictly condemns religious extremism and the use of violence against innocent lives. There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism. Targeting civilians? life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram? or forbidden - and those who commit these barbaric acts are criminals, not ?martyrs.?
The Quran, Islams revealed text, states: "Whoever kills a person [unjustly] it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Quran, 5:32)
Prophet Muhammad said there is no excuse for committing unjust acts: "Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil." (Al-Tirmidhi)
God mandates moderation in faith and in all aspects of life when He states in the Quran: We made you to be a community of the middle way, so that (with the example of your lives) you might bear witness to the truth before all mankind. (Quran, 2:143)
In another verse, God explains our duties as human beings when he says: Let there arise from among you a band of people who invite to righteousness, and enjoin good and forbid evil. (Quran, 3:104)
Islam teaches us to act in a caring manner to all of God's creation. The Prophet Muhammad, who is described in the Quran as a mercy to the worlds? said: All creation is the family of God, and the person most beloved by God (is the one) who is kind and caring toward His family."
In the light of the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah we clearly and strongly state:
1. All acts of terrorism targeting civilians are haram (forbidden) in Islam.
2. It is haram for a Muslim to cooperate with any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or violence.
3. It is the civic and religious duty of Muslims to cooperate with law enforcement authorities to protect the lives of all civilians.
We issue this fatwa following the guidance of our scripture, the Quran, and the teachings of our Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. We urge all people to resolve all conflicts in just and peaceful manners.
We pray for the defeat of extremism and terrorism. We pray for the safety and security of our country, the United States, and its people. We pray for the safety and security of all inhabitants of our planet. We pray that interfaith harmony and cooperation prevail both in the United States and all around the globe.
FIQH COUNCIL OF NORTH AMERICA
Members
1. Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi
2. Dr. Abdul Hakim Jackson
3. Dr. Ahmad Shleibak
4. Dr. Akbar Muhammad
5. Dr. Deina Abdulkadir
6. Shaikh Hassan Qazwini
7. Dr. Ihsan Bagby
8. Dr. Jamal Badawi
9. Dr. Muhammad Adam Sheikh
10. Shaikh Muhammad Al-Hanooti
11. Shaikh Muhammad Nur Abdallah
12. Dr. Salah Soltan
13. Dr. Taha Jabir Alalwani
14. Shaikh Yahya Hindi
15. Shaikhah Zainab Alwani
16. Dr. Zulfiqar Ali Shah
17. Dr. Mukhtar Maghraoui
18. Dr. Nazih Hammad
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MUHAMMAD-ALI YOUNES FROM LEBANON said:
Why to only talk abt Muslim extremism, what abt Christian and Jewish extremism.
2005-11-02
HUDD D'AELIA FROM CANADA said:
gobnait, I can't help myself, the name "Hudd" means edge among other things, and sharp, vehement, intense as adjective. It's a nickname I acquired in Africa, among my Muslim brothers there as they experienced first hand my impetuousness. Still I really don't see the problem? Rocket is drawing water to his field regardless of Muslim sensitivities. I connot close my eyes to indiscriminate targetting of Muslims directly or indirectly. If I sense racism or fascism I'm your man, I'll fight you to death, because the ugliest kind of hatred are the two I mentioned. I'm sorry,gobnait, but I have to correct you on,"Curiously, you simply don't see your blanket condemnations of Americans and Israelis as being bigoted or prejudiced". I didn't condemn the Americans and the Israelis as a people. I condemned their governments and their political system that produced hatred, racism and fascism among the majority of the masses that were deliberately kept ignorant and subjected to different fears: fear of Communists, fear of Japanese, fear of Muslims, fear of blacks, fear,fear,fear!
Now, if you'll be so kind, please, point out to me where I was bigoted, racist and whatever the character of the beam in my eye would be.
Till we meet again, I bid you salam!
Now, if you'll be so kind, please, point out to me where I was bigoted, racist and whatever the character of the beam in my eye would be.
Till we meet again, I bid you salam!
2005-08-17
GOBNAIT FROM IRELAND said:
Dear Hudd, it takes so little to send you over the edge! Rocket is right here, you are awfully quick to condemn and accuse others of all sorts of racism and bigotry. Curiously, you simply don't see your blanket condemnations of Americans and Israelis as being bigoted or prejudiced. Sort of like those people in the Good Book who saw a speck or mote on someone else's eye, but didn't see the log in their own eye.
2005-08-16
HUDD D'AELIA FROM CANADA said:
Rocket, who is us? I didn't command, I recommended in a very friendly manner, you would see me when I'm pissed. What the hell are you talking about, oppress? Are you sure your comment was directed to me? Me racist? I'm a Caucasian person, dude, but the difference between you and me is that I am a brother to all oppressed people on Earth and because of this I became a scum in your eyes like all those that live in places you white-asses wouldn't dare to pass through by car.
Understand democracy? What? US policies are democratic? To whom? To Haliburton and the less than 2% of the US p[opulation that happen to hold 90% of US capital? Do you think I was born yesterday or that I was a FOB? Information is available for those who seek it. I don't give a rat's ass worth on your religion, I don't care what you practice, all I know is not Islam, conventional Christianity or Orthodox Judaism.
My personal anger on the world? Dude! America is part of the world not the world! And yes! I will always attack the US government as long as they unconditionally support Israel! Supporting a country or a people in all they do and especially in massacres and humiliations of another ethnicity is downright barbaric, uncivilized, fascist, nazi and racist! How would you want me to choose to be ignorant of these? You know, I mind God, I'm not afraid of Him because I'm not a criminal(harami). But by me denying the suffering of people for the benifit of dictatorships like Israel and US(with the homeland security and Patriot act, US is slowly becoming the Saudi Arabia of the new world).
I think I'm wasting my time on you since you will neither see nor understand the obvious. It was not part of your programming by the US media. My last message to you is what the Australians used to say to the Asian immigrants:'nick off!'
Understand democracy? What? US policies are democratic? To whom? To Haliburton and the less than 2% of the US p[opulation that happen to hold 90% of US capital? Do you think I was born yesterday or that I was a FOB? Information is available for those who seek it. I don't give a rat's ass worth on your religion, I don't care what you practice, all I know is not Islam, conventional Christianity or Orthodox Judaism.
My personal anger on the world? Dude! America is part of the world not the world! And yes! I will always attack the US government as long as they unconditionally support Israel! Supporting a country or a people in all they do and especially in massacres and humiliations of another ethnicity is downright barbaric, uncivilized, fascist, nazi and racist! How would you want me to choose to be ignorant of these? You know, I mind God, I'm not afraid of Him because I'm not a criminal(harami). But by me denying the suffering of people for the benifit of dictatorships like Israel and US(with the homeland security and Patriot act, US is slowly becoming the Saudi Arabia of the new world).
I think I'm wasting my time on you since you will neither see nor understand the obvious. It was not part of your programming by the US media. My last message to you is what the Australians used to say to the Asian immigrants:'nick off!'
2005-08-13
ROCKET FROM USA said:
Hudd d'Aelia, you opened your last comment to us with the very
opressive attitude that no one appreciates. No one is going to
"step down" or disappear or go away just because you command
it.
You accuse others of being racist and self-righteous through a
racist and self-righteous remark about whites yourself. You
accuse me of being hypocritical, based on what? As far as you
attacking the US governement, well, thats indicative of your
attitude. Attack and oppress seems to be your only agenda. Do
not make the mistake of judging all Amercans based on the
actions of our governement. If you do, you dont understand
democracy or a majority rule. You are just showing ignorance by
judging, attacking, and oppressing.
You say you understand I am 'born again'/'witness'/Mormon,etc,
yet I have not spoken on anything that would indicate what
religion I practice. Again, you are just attacking with your
prejudgement and anger. Also, I have not spoken on any belief
that just because someone is white that God is on their side.
You are expressing a lot of anger, judgement, racism and
oppression without anyone bringing it up. Your comments are
so far off topic about my dilemma with my father and needing
help from believers in the muslim religion, that one could only
summize that you have picked a random venue to mount your
personal attacks and release your personal anger on the world.
Try Love, not hate.
opressive attitude that no one appreciates. No one is going to
"step down" or disappear or go away just because you command
it.
You accuse others of being racist and self-righteous through a
racist and self-righteous remark about whites yourself. You
accuse me of being hypocritical, based on what? As far as you
attacking the US governement, well, thats indicative of your
attitude. Attack and oppress seems to be your only agenda. Do
not make the mistake of judging all Amercans based on the
actions of our governement. If you do, you dont understand
democracy or a majority rule. You are just showing ignorance by
judging, attacking, and oppressing.
You say you understand I am 'born again'/'witness'/Mormon,etc,
yet I have not spoken on anything that would indicate what
religion I practice. Again, you are just attacking with your
prejudgement and anger. Also, I have not spoken on any belief
that just because someone is white that God is on their side.
You are expressing a lot of anger, judgement, racism and
oppression without anyone bringing it up. Your comments are
so far off topic about my dilemma with my father and needing
help from believers in the muslim religion, that one could only
summize that you have picked a random venue to mount your
personal attacks and release your personal anger on the world.
Try Love, not hate.
2005-08-13
HUDD D'AELIA FROM CANADA said:
God, Rocket! Just step down, brother, you've been proven mistaken and that's all about it! No religion is entirely void of violent hues, but even if it was, people choose to act and react according to other forces than those of God. I must reiterate over and over again that this terroristic phenomenon is a political rather than religious effect. Terrorism doesn't exist because Islam, it exists because colonialization and illegal occupation of foreign lands. Why can't you accept the obvious? How racist and self-righteous you white people can be?(All my respect for those Caucasians that are on the ball with the interpretation of these unfortunate events) US,UK and Israel are the directors and producers of terrorism. Then you want to fight what you yourselves have created? Don't take me wrong, only because I don't approve of your hypocracy doesn't mean that I justify or motivate terrorism. It is like I see the crimes of Harlem as the effect of the American society's lack of concern and dutifulness toward a racially marginalized segment of their population. I will continue to attack US government on her apathy toward Blacks,Latinoes,Natives and Others and devoulge their disinterest of alotting part of the National surplus to developing these neighbourhoods and facilitating these people decent means of life. You see, I do not justify crime or motivate them. I simply see the problem and where it comes from. The source has to be dealt with in order the effect to stop.
I understand you are a 'born again'/'witness'/Mormon,etc, but lift your chin and try to look beyond the spiritually deadening fence that your sect built around your supposedly free spirit. If you are created by God, you need nobody to sense God's presence or absence in developing scenarios in His world. And believe, God is not on your side only because you are white,Christian and live in America!
Peace out!
I understand you are a 'born again'/'witness'/Mormon,etc, but lift your chin and try to look beyond the spiritually deadening fence that your sect built around your supposedly free spirit. If you are created by God, you need nobody to sense God's presence or absence in developing scenarios in His world. And believe, God is not on your side only because you are white,Christian and live in America!
Peace out!
2005-08-11
ROCKET FROM USA said:
I think one of the most important messages I get from God (be it
through the Bible, the Quran, or any other source including my
fellow man) is that God created us, gave us life and reserves the
right as all powerful being, to take it away. I think that message
was clear when he commanded thou shalt not kill. Punishment
for killing is described as a mortal sin and condemned to hell for
eternity. I think it makes perfect sense as anyone would be harsh
if they created something and someone else came along and
destroyed it. I think God was very clear that he has not given you
the right to kill anything he created with a few exceptions that
God made clear, and that is to live off the land and that he
created animals to populate the earth and some of them you can
kill for food and some you may not kill and eat. This is also a
very clear message from Godand spelled out very clearly in the
BIble. The message is clear, do not kill another human being
that God created (and he created all human beings) not even
your enemy since he breathed life into and gave life to your
enemy also. To your enemy, Jesus is very clear, as roman
soldiers shoved a spear into his chest whi8le being crucified on
the cross, "Forgive them, for they know not what they are
doing". Not smite at their necks because they are attacking me.
through the Bible, the Quran, or any other source including my
fellow man) is that God created us, gave us life and reserves the
right as all powerful being, to take it away. I think that message
was clear when he commanded thou shalt not kill. Punishment
for killing is described as a mortal sin and condemned to hell for
eternity. I think it makes perfect sense as anyone would be harsh
if they created something and someone else came along and
destroyed it. I think God was very clear that he has not given you
the right to kill anything he created with a few exceptions that
God made clear, and that is to live off the land and that he
created animals to populate the earth and some of them you can
kill for food and some you may not kill and eat. This is also a
very clear message from Godand spelled out very clearly in the
BIble. The message is clear, do not kill another human being
that God created (and he created all human beings) not even
your enemy since he breathed life into and gave life to your
enemy also. To your enemy, Jesus is very clear, as roman
soldiers shoved a spear into his chest whi8le being crucified on
the cross, "Forgive them, for they know not what they are
doing". Not smite at their necks because they are attacking me.
2005-08-11
ROCKET FROM USA said:
My Apologies Hudd d'Allea. Fine display of hostility on your part
in your passive aggresive nature that we have all been witness to
in recent times connected with Islam and brotherly love.
I made an incorrect reference (and yes I have read the bible
many times from front to back cover) when I stated "The Bible
does not suggest or advocate violence or killing at all" I actually
meant God (or Jesus). All your references to combat where I
misspoke myself was out of context. However, to make things
clear, the Bible is a collection of Stories, of Accounts, of Prayers,
and Song. It is parables, messages, and kinship (lineage of
families) and a great many things aside from being the word of
God. Yes, there are stories and accounts of killing, and savage
behaviour, and anger, and love, and brotherhood. That's why it
is a collection, from many people, from many different times,
about a great many events. The Bible is a message, a teaching
tool, a reference, a guide and the Word of God. Now, as for your
retort, yes, there is reference to killing and violence as recorded
by various people in the bible, yet God nor Jesus EVER said Kill
or Smite another human being. in Fact the Commandments bear
this out as I stated "Thou shalt not kill", period. (which by the
way means character assassination since that is a form of killing)
Not only does the Bible carry a literal message, but it also
implies a set of rules for us to follow throughout time. Which
means a lot of it is not meant to be literal, but as a guide and set
of rules that can be applied no matter what year it is until the
end of time. Hence the parables and stories contained in it. But
thank you for attacking me based on a small mistype and not
reading the whole message. I still love you , my brother.
Rocket
in your passive aggresive nature that we have all been witness to
in recent times connected with Islam and brotherly love.
I made an incorrect reference (and yes I have read the bible
many times from front to back cover) when I stated "The Bible
does not suggest or advocate violence or killing at all" I actually
meant God (or Jesus). All your references to combat where I
misspoke myself was out of context. However, to make things
clear, the Bible is a collection of Stories, of Accounts, of Prayers,
and Song. It is parables, messages, and kinship (lineage of
families) and a great many things aside from being the word of
God. Yes, there are stories and accounts of killing, and savage
behaviour, and anger, and love, and brotherhood. That's why it
is a collection, from many people, from many different times,
about a great many events. The Bible is a message, a teaching
tool, a reference, a guide and the Word of God. Now, as for your
retort, yes, there is reference to killing and violence as recorded
by various people in the bible, yet God nor Jesus EVER said Kill
or Smite another human being. in Fact the Commandments bear
this out as I stated "Thou shalt not kill", period. (which by the
way means character assassination since that is a form of killing)
Not only does the Bible carry a literal message, but it also
implies a set of rules for us to follow throughout time. Which
means a lot of it is not meant to be literal, but as a guide and set
of rules that can be applied no matter what year it is until the
end of time. Hence the parables and stories contained in it. But
thank you for attacking me based on a small mistype and not
reading the whole message. I still love you , my brother.
Rocket
2005-08-10
JUNEBUG FROM UK said:
So when are Americans going to renounce terrorism ?
2005-08-09
HUDD D'AELIA FROM CANADA said:
No kidding, Rocket? I can't believe that you are such ignorant of your own religion. You believe that we don't know the Bible because we were Muslim? Be known unto you that Islam has a great number of Christian 'defectors', especially because they got fed up with the hypocracy of Christianity the source of Racism, Fascism, Nazism, Sexism and the cult of a supposed 'superior' race over all others. Did you read the Bible from one end to the other? If your answer was what you honestly believed, then I can figure you read only pamflets and certain extracts that would brainwash you into believing that the Bible was in its entirety the word of God. In case you read the Bible and still state these aberations I can draw the following conclusions: 1) You are a supplanter and a deceiver and you would like to blinden the unprepared Muslims into believing that your corrupt Bible would be the Truth and the Quran would be an instrument of hate. 2) Or you are from among those that are spiritually blind and wouldn't see the truth if it struck them in the forehead. For the sake of a civilized argument let me assume that you didn't read the Bible. There are more passages in the bible promoting hate and killings than promoting peace or love. When Joshua enters Canaan and conquers Jericho: from Joshua 6:21,"They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it-men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.",6:24, "Then they burnt the whole city and everything in it, but they put the silver and the gold and the article of bronze and iron into the treasury of the Lord's house." ,6:27, "So the Lord was with Joshua, and his fame spread throughout the land." I couldn't quote all of them, but do me a favour, read the Bible and you will see. According to the above, what was this but genocide? Did the Jerichoans attack the invading Israelites? In Quran violence is against those that attack you,it's the nature's law in any society,namely,self-defence.
2005-08-08
ROCKET FROM USA said:
aaq - thank you very much for the analogy. I do look upon the
Qur'an as a whole (as the car, not the driver), but I have to ask, if
the car is a finely tuned machine built with precision and pride in
excellence and if the whole car (Qur'an) were of the highest
quality and one wheel (chapter or Surah) was square (smite at
their necks rather than love and tolerate), how can the car
function realiably and at peak effeciency?
Qur'an as a whole (as the car, not the driver), but I have to ask, if
the car is a finely tuned machine built with precision and pride in
excellence and if the whole car (Qur'an) were of the highest
quality and one wheel (chapter or Surah) was square (smite at
their necks rather than love and tolerate), how can the car
function realiably and at peak effeciency?
2005-08-08
ROCKET FROM USA said:
Thank You H.A. I am having a truly hard time with this. I don't
want to disrespect my father by confronting him and doing
battle with him over the Islam religion for it is he who brought
me into this world and he who teaches me from his wisdom and
how to love and be loved. I understand there are extremists in
religion, and that we will have problems because of them. I have
to correct myself however, because the Qur'an does promote
violence in a few places, one such chapter is (Quran, 47:4)
"Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at
their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them,
bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either
generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens..."
and (Quran, 5:32) "Whoever kills a person [unjustly] it is as
though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is
as though he had saved all mankind."
The Bible does not suggest or advocate violence or killing at all.
In fact one of the comandments is Thou Shalt Not Kill. No other
words accompany this, no words to imply a justifiable killing.
Because God, Allah will be the Judge, not people. Elsewhere in
the bible it states "turn the other cheek" when harm is done to
you and "to forgive your enemy as I have forgiven you". Not
strike back at them and smite them at their necks. Not even if
they try to kill you. Defend yourself yes. Kill...never. I guess I am
trying to find the credibility and though I believe the vast
majority of Islam are peaceful and tolerant people, I could make
my case better with my father if the Qur'an didn't have chapters
suggesting killing of any kind. Even though most of the Qur'an
promotes peace and love and tolerance for the unbelievers, it is
those few chapters that weakens my cause. I would enjoy any
help on this.
want to disrespect my father by confronting him and doing
battle with him over the Islam religion for it is he who brought
me into this world and he who teaches me from his wisdom and
how to love and be loved. I understand there are extremists in
religion, and that we will have problems because of them. I have
to correct myself however, because the Qur'an does promote
violence in a few places, one such chapter is (Quran, 47:4)
"Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at
their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them,
bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either
generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens..."
and (Quran, 5:32) "Whoever kills a person [unjustly] it is as
though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is
as though he had saved all mankind."
The Bible does not suggest or advocate violence or killing at all.
In fact one of the comandments is Thou Shalt Not Kill. No other
words accompany this, no words to imply a justifiable killing.
Because God, Allah will be the Judge, not people. Elsewhere in
the bible it states "turn the other cheek" when harm is done to
you and "to forgive your enemy as I have forgiven you". Not
strike back at them and smite them at their necks. Not even if
they try to kill you. Defend yourself yes. Kill...never. I guess I am
trying to find the credibility and though I believe the vast
majority of Islam are peaceful and tolerant people, I could make
my case better with my father if the Qur'an didn't have chapters
suggesting killing of any kind. Even though most of the Qur'an
promotes peace and love and tolerance for the unbelievers, it is
those few chapters that weakens my cause. I would enjoy any
help on this.
2005-08-08
AAQ FROM INDIA said:
Peace be upon those who are on right religion:
i would like to inform rocket some logic information that if you or ur father wanted to buy a car would you judge the car by its driver or by its performance.offcourse if the car is driven by micheal schumacher it will give u a great impression on car and if the same car is driven by learner it will spoil the car and do damage to car so its better to judge a car by its perfomance rather than driver.like wise if you want to judge a religion dont judge by its peoples or followers b'cos you might find good and bad in all religions,so judge religion by its qualities and islam is the religion of truth and best way of life for all mankind islam has got solutions for every problem let it be if it is religion,business,economy,trading,science,laws etc which are great and best from others.i hope you understand islam by its qualities and ask guidance from god.may Allah guides you and all
i would like to inform rocket some logic information that if you or ur father wanted to buy a car would you judge the car by its driver or by its performance.offcourse if the car is driven by micheal schumacher it will give u a great impression on car and if the same car is driven by learner it will spoil the car and do damage to car so its better to judge a car by its perfomance rather than driver.like wise if you want to judge a religion dont judge by its peoples or followers b'cos you might find good and bad in all religions,so judge religion by its qualities and islam is the religion of truth and best way of life for all mankind islam has got solutions for every problem let it be if it is religion,business,economy,trading,science,laws etc which are great and best from others.i hope you understand islam by its qualities and ask guidance from god.may Allah guides you and all
2005-08-07
FALIKU FROM USA said:
It saddens me as a Muslim to know that some of our brothers will allow themselves to be blinded to the truth as a result of sheer anger. Brother Ahmed, in Comment #33047, quoted several verses from the Holy Qur'an that are sufficient to incite any gullible Muslim--a Muslim who is not familiar with the historicity of Islam; so he or she will unwarily take any information--hook, line and sinker--from any fanatic. Doesn't Brother Ahmed know that, through the Grace and Mercy of Almighty Allah, the most powerful protector of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)--both before and after he began receiving the revelations--was his uncle Abu Talib who himself remained a disbeliever up to his dying bed? Doesn't Brother Ahmed know that the first group of Muslims to flee persecution was specifically sent by the Prophet (SAW) to the king of Abyssinia (a devout Christian) for protection? Doesn't he know that the Prophet (SAW) and Muslims of his days peaceably lived amongst and with people who were disbelievers? I am citing these instances not to suggest that one's best option is to befriend the enemy, but to inform Brother Ahmed that some "enemies" are better than hypocrites who pretend to be Muslims or friends of Islam. The governments of these predominantly Muslim countries--Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran (and to some extent, Palestine), etc.--are collaborating in the fight against terrorism; and I have not heard that the majority of their citizens are opposed to this objective. So is Brother Ahmed suggesting that he knows more than these people or that he is more Islamic than they? I beg his pardon. We, as Muslims, will do well for ourselves and humanity if we read more about our religion; and this will be in direct fulfillment of the first word that Allah (SWT) uttered to the Prophet (SAW) through Jibreel: "Iqra'a...[read...]".I strongly recommend the book written by the late Brother Martin Lings:"MUHAMMAD: his life based on the earliest sources." Salam.
2005-08-05
JAMAL FROM MALAYSIA said:
What does the Muslim religous council do on the daily bombings and killings and sufferings of our muslim ikhwan in Iraq, Afghanistan,Palestine Thailand, Eritiea, Sudan, Phillipines? You have a very strong voice of condemming the so-called terrorist of Islam. What about the terrorist of non-islam, the army of Jews, Christians (i hate to say it) ...have you anything to say? The people that does the bombings have got relatives, brothers, sisters, father, mother being killed, i repeat, killed in Iraq and the rest of the world.
2005-08-05
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
I gotta apologize to Rocket. I did not read his whole comments before post my 1st comment. He/she seems to me a nice person...(although I need to be nice to people who are both good and bad, I just can't talk like a "frog"...so help me God)
Rocket should run for the presidency to save the United States...And if I ever immigrate from Yathrib to Yorkshire, NY, ROCKET is going to get my vote...
Rocket should run for the presidency to save the United States...And if I ever immigrate from Yathrib to Yorkshire, NY, ROCKET is going to get my vote...
2005-08-05
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
Hey Rocket!
- are you having hard time swallowing the truth? Muslims, the true believers of this Earth, speak the truth even if the truth goes against them or against their sweehearts...
The only solution to decrease the violence and hypocrisy in the world today is to put the American "smart" president, Bush Jr and the criminals in U.S. gov't in a ROCKET and send them out of this world and never allow them re-entry...b/c they are the true criminals of our time...
If you can't handle my comment then that's just too bad...find a ranch and feed cows, instead of reading comments here and calculating the ratios of which comments are good and which comments are bad...I, HA, is going to say what you like to hear...
Have fun @ the ranch!!!
- are you having hard time swallowing the truth? Muslims, the true believers of this Earth, speak the truth even if the truth goes against them or against their sweehearts...
The only solution to decrease the violence and hypocrisy in the world today is to put the American "smart" president, Bush Jr and the criminals in U.S. gov't in a ROCKET and send them out of this world and never allow them re-entry...b/c they are the true criminals of our time...
If you can't handle my comment then that's just too bad...find a ranch and feed cows, instead of reading comments here and calculating the ratios of which comments are good and which comments are bad...I, HA, is going to say what you like to hear...
Have fun @ the ranch!!!
2005-08-05
ROCKET FROM USA said:
I'veread over all the posts here. I'm an american, and I'm
trying hard to be unbiased here. I'm not seeing a lot of
educated OR truly "religious" based comments here except for
Amin. I see a LOT of Extremist comments which seems to be a
pretty good cross section of the Islam public at large, and most
of the comments are driven by anger and hate that I see no basis
for, since after having read the Quran, I only see contradictory
actions by Muslim. The Quran has many passages that "teach" us
to act in a caring manner to all of God's creation. Yet I see 90%
of the posts in direct contradiction of this religious teaching.
We have a number of different religions here in the US as
well as Muslim, and we have our extremists as well (sadly),
however, since when did our Bible or the Quran "EVER" teach us
to strike out in anger and smite an entire race or country of
people let alone for something we dont understand? the answer
is never. I am currently battling my father's ill-informed opinion
that all Islam and all Muslim are blood thirsty people out to kill
any human (mostly american) that is not of the pure religion of
Islam and I quote him: "Remember, WE are the non-believers of
Islam and it is their duty to kill all of us. The ultimate goal of
Islam is to be the only religion in the world. Period. No
discussion. That was Mohammed's command 400 years ago and
it's the same command preached today by extremist Muslim
religious leaders."
Now..how am I to battle my father and show him he is wrong
(other than quoting the Quran to him and trying to find where
Mohammed commanded you to kill all non-believers) if certain
Iraqi Muslim (like yourselves) keep PROVING him to be right..and
making it 10 times more difficult for me to prove him wrong??
The US is not "occupying Iraq" just to occupy Iraq. We are
hunting Terrorists Iraq is harboring. If you Want Sadam
back, to kill and mame hi
trying hard to be unbiased here. I'm not seeing a lot of
educated OR truly "religious" based comments here except for
Amin. I see a LOT of Extremist comments which seems to be a
pretty good cross section of the Islam public at large, and most
of the comments are driven by anger and hate that I see no basis
for, since after having read the Quran, I only see contradictory
actions by Muslim. The Quran has many passages that "teach" us
to act in a caring manner to all of God's creation. Yet I see 90%
of the posts in direct contradiction of this religious teaching.
We have a number of different religions here in the US as
well as Muslim, and we have our extremists as well (sadly),
however, since when did our Bible or the Quran "EVER" teach us
to strike out in anger and smite an entire race or country of
people let alone for something we dont understand? the answer
is never. I am currently battling my father's ill-informed opinion
that all Islam and all Muslim are blood thirsty people out to kill
any human (mostly american) that is not of the pure religion of
Islam and I quote him: "Remember, WE are the non-believers of
Islam and it is their duty to kill all of us. The ultimate goal of
Islam is to be the only religion in the world. Period. No
discussion. That was Mohammed's command 400 years ago and
it's the same command preached today by extremist Muslim
religious leaders."
Now..how am I to battle my father and show him he is wrong
(other than quoting the Quran to him and trying to find where
Mohammed commanded you to kill all non-believers) if certain
Iraqi Muslim (like yourselves) keep PROVING him to be right..and
making it 10 times more difficult for me to prove him wrong??
The US is not "occupying Iraq" just to occupy Iraq. We are
hunting Terrorists Iraq is harboring. If you Want Sadam
back, to kill and mame hi
2005-08-05
JAVED FROM USA said:
I think Fiqh council should also give an opinion about the Taxation we pay to the US Govt. This money is definitely used in the war preparation. A daisy cutter does not kill the culprits only. By contributing tax we are equally participant in this whole deal. Please Issue another fatwa in this regard...if you DARE?
2005-08-04
AMINA said:
...and apparently i can't spell hypocrite.
2005-08-02
SYED FROM US said:
To Mujtaba, the fatwa against American occupation of Muslim lands (be it Afghanistan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia) will apply to Muslims not Americans, Well you criticizing others for not understanding the Islamic principles, why cannot the fiqh council issue a fatwa for Muslims to support Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan in their battle against occupation, to boycott American products and that we cannot attack civilians but can legitimate the attack American troops whom are bombing and killing innocent lives in thousands.
2005-08-02
NATIVE FROM USA` said:
If this sell out "fiqh council" cannot issue a fatwa against the US - it can do the following:
"No Muslim should join the United States military because no Muslim can unjustly kill another Muslim."
Why have they not done that? They will never do that because this whole charade is nothing more than an Uncle Sam pleasing act.
Or, how about this fatwa:
"No Muslim should cooperate with the United States military - and it is the responsiblity of every Muslim to do everything within the rules of Sharia to oppose the US wars on Muslims and Islam." It can then list the ways to oppose these attacks - such as participating in anti-war movements - and even acts of non-violent civil disobedience.
Don't hold your breath for that fatwa - it will never appear - because Uncle Sam will go after these guys before you can say "good Muslim."
"No Muslim should join the United States military because no Muslim can unjustly kill another Muslim."
Why have they not done that? They will never do that because this whole charade is nothing more than an Uncle Sam pleasing act.
Or, how about this fatwa:
"No Muslim should cooperate with the United States military - and it is the responsiblity of every Muslim to do everything within the rules of Sharia to oppose the US wars on Muslims and Islam." It can then list the ways to oppose these attacks - such as participating in anti-war movements - and even acts of non-violent civil disobedience.
Don't hold your breath for that fatwa - it will never appear - because Uncle Sam will go after these guys before you can say "good Muslim."
2005-08-02
AMINA FROM US said:
If many of you people commenting didn't make me so sad i'd be laughing. Let me get this straight, you think a (way long overdue) fatwa, directed at muslims, should simultaneously be criticizing america, and that it didn't, the fiqh council are hypocrits?? Am I to believe that everytime you criticize America and Israel you equally criticize the terrorists and extremist muslims?? YOU are the hyprocrits here!
And please stop pretending you care about Iraqis and Afghanis unless you were just as outspoken back when Saddam ruled Iraq and the Taliban were executing women in footbal stadiums, and can also tell me that your level of outrage over the terrorists in Iraq would be as minimal as it is were they non-muslim terrorists instead. This fatwa is a great thing!!
And if Muslims think it's always acceptable to refer to other wrongs as justification for violence, then perhaps we should start giving more credence to criticism of some of the wrongs committed during Islamic expansion several centuries ago, or for that matter defending any poor treatment of Muslims in the war on terror simply becuase of wrongs committed by some of our people. You can't have it both ways.
Today's Muslims should really start thinking about a better way to spin "nothing" and "whined" when asked by Allah on the day of judgement what they did to prevent his message from becoming so twisted.
And please stop pretending you care about Iraqis and Afghanis unless you were just as outspoken back when Saddam ruled Iraq and the Taliban were executing women in footbal stadiums, and can also tell me that your level of outrage over the terrorists in Iraq would be as minimal as it is were they non-muslim terrorists instead. This fatwa is a great thing!!
And if Muslims think it's always acceptable to refer to other wrongs as justification for violence, then perhaps we should start giving more credence to criticism of some of the wrongs committed during Islamic expansion several centuries ago, or for that matter defending any poor treatment of Muslims in the war on terror simply becuase of wrongs committed by some of our people. You can't have it both ways.
Today's Muslims should really start thinking about a better way to spin "nothing" and "whined" when asked by Allah on the day of judgement what they did to prevent his message from becoming so twisted.
2005-08-02
ASIF ZAIDI FROM USA said:
Mujtaba: Perhaps you meant the post by 'native' - he was the one who wanted the fatwa you had incorrectly accused me of typing.
I don't hide behind a pseudonym.
Asif
I don't hide behind a pseudonym.
Asif
2005-08-02
ASIF ZAIDI FROM USA said:
Mujtaba: I didn't say to issue a fatwa against America in my post - please re-read. You are reading into my post and making conclusions. Bad,bad !!
I do know *a bit* of Islam to know what is permissible in a Muslim state vs a non-Muslim state.
Killing of Muslim by a Muslim is absolutely haraam and so is killing of Muslim civilians by non-Muslims is haraam (and vice-versa).
My point (and I think I stated it clearly in original post) is the fatwa contents are not wrong (not one bit), but they don't cover a word about root causes. The document has tried to be everything to everyone and that just doesn't work.
Maybe it will help - but if I can project from the limited information I have, I don't think it will serve anything. But thats why we have leaders - they have a certain vision and they have not made it clear why they did this. It seems to me it was out of pressure.
Asif
I do know *a bit* of Islam to know what is permissible in a Muslim state vs a non-Muslim state.
Killing of Muslim by a Muslim is absolutely haraam and so is killing of Muslim civilians by non-Muslims is haraam (and vice-versa).
My point (and I think I stated it clearly in original post) is the fatwa contents are not wrong (not one bit), but they don't cover a word about root causes. The document has tried to be everything to everyone and that just doesn't work.
Maybe it will help - but if I can project from the limited information I have, I don't think it will serve anything. But thats why we have leaders - they have a certain vision and they have not made it clear why they did this. It seems to me it was out of pressure.
Asif
2005-08-02
ABDUL AZZIZ FROM USA said:
Where have these enlightened minds that speaks for all US muslims been for the past decade?
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2005-08-02
MUJTABA ALI FROM USA said:
As salamu alaikum!
The intention of the Fiqh Council is to denounce religious extremism and terrorism where ever it is occurring. Sure, the problem in Palestine is one of the root causes of religious extremism, but that doesn't mean Muslims deviate from the Shariah! Muslims killing Muslims is a form of kufr! The bombings in Egypt, Iraq, Morocco, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc. illustrate many times Muslims killing innocent Muslims and non-Muslims. We must first criticize ourselves and become better before we tackle challenges we face as a whole. Allah does not change the condition of a people unless they change themselves. Fatwa against U.S. occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan - what do you mean Asif Zaidi? The U.S. is not a Muslim country- it will be utterly useless to issue a fatwa to a non-Muslim. Understand basic islamic terminology before typing. Understand Islam by studying Islam. If you want to change the situation of Muslims - here's one and only solution: take classes on Islam and implement Islam in your life! Are you upto it? We Muslims have become so lazy that we don't even want to learn our own religion. This laziness is turning us into ignorant and arrogant fools. Give yourself a break and learn Islam before criticizing our ulema. The Fiqh Council has done a great job in issuing this fatwa.
The intention of the Fiqh Council is to denounce religious extremism and terrorism where ever it is occurring. Sure, the problem in Palestine is one of the root causes of religious extremism, but that doesn't mean Muslims deviate from the Shariah! Muslims killing Muslims is a form of kufr! The bombings in Egypt, Iraq, Morocco, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc. illustrate many times Muslims killing innocent Muslims and non-Muslims. We must first criticize ourselves and become better before we tackle challenges we face as a whole. Allah does not change the condition of a people unless they change themselves. Fatwa against U.S. occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan - what do you mean Asif Zaidi? The U.S. is not a Muslim country- it will be utterly useless to issue a fatwa to a non-Muslim. Understand basic islamic terminology before typing. Understand Islam by studying Islam. If you want to change the situation of Muslims - here's one and only solution: take classes on Islam and implement Islam in your life! Are you upto it? We Muslims have become so lazy that we don't even want to learn our own religion. This laziness is turning us into ignorant and arrogant fools. Give yourself a break and learn Islam before criticizing our ulema. The Fiqh Council has done a great job in issuing this fatwa.
2005-08-02
IMAM DR. RIZA M. KHALILULLAH FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
All terrorism must be condemned! Why is it that a bomb dropped from a fighter plane that kills innocent men, women, and children is called collateral damage and no one challenges the statement. But when a bomb made by a man too poor to have a military industrial complex to manufacture one makes his own and becomes part of the bomb he is a terrorist? Is he an Islamic Terrorist because he mentions the word Allah? What about the Christian, Jewish, or other person who mentions God in his language before he goes to kill innocent Muslims? Is he an honorable soldier because he wears a recognizable uniform? A few days ago the anniversary of the death of more than 7,500 Muslims who were murdered at Srevenica went virtually unnoticed and no fatwa was issued condemning this genocide. In all cases the person is dead unjustly.
2005-08-01
NATIVE FROM USA said:
So, where is the fatwa against the United States military occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine (using its 51st state "Israel") --- this sounds like Uncle said jump - and these cowardly Muslim organizations jumped... soon Uncle will say - roll over and play dead - these same orgs. will do just that.
2005-08-01
ASIF ZAIDI FROM USA said:
I don't disagree with the contents of the fatwa - not one bit.
But I think this 'Fiqh' council sold out the Muslims in America (west). They didn't issue one word against the root cause of the problem and instead just issued a very politically correct statment.
This 'fatwa' will not appease the neo-cons - they will simply see that they can push the Muslims around. Like one post said, lets wait for a fatwa from evagelical community for not targetting Muslims in Palestine !!
Next time these 'religious' leaders rail out against the injustices of present day Arab rulers, they should look at themselves in the mirror and consider that the pressures they face are the same pressures that these pathetic Arab leaders face. These 'religious' leaders simply cannot voice the opinion of the people and just are bent on protecting their own prestige - very much like our Arab/Muslim political leaders.
Completely disgusted with the Fiqh council. Not one word mentioned about injustice against Muslims (Palestine, Iraq, Chechnya, Kashmir)
Asif
But I think this 'Fiqh' council sold out the Muslims in America (west). They didn't issue one word against the root cause of the problem and instead just issued a very politically correct statment.
This 'fatwa' will not appease the neo-cons - they will simply see that they can push the Muslims around. Like one post said, lets wait for a fatwa from evagelical community for not targetting Muslims in Palestine !!
Next time these 'religious' leaders rail out against the injustices of present day Arab rulers, they should look at themselves in the mirror and consider that the pressures they face are the same pressures that these pathetic Arab leaders face. These 'religious' leaders simply cannot voice the opinion of the people and just are bent on protecting their own prestige - very much like our Arab/Muslim political leaders.
Completely disgusted with the Fiqh council. Not one word mentioned about injustice against Muslims (Palestine, Iraq, Chechnya, Kashmir)
Asif
2005-08-01
SUBHI FROM INDONESIA said:
I feel America doing great job, although Muslim people die is sad. Al-Qaeda and Taliban killing more muslims than American Soldier. American soldier trying not to kill, but Muslim continue with bomb and scare American people to think innocent muslim are terrorist too. I hope terrorist knows they do more bad than good.
Allah-khalik
Allah-khalik
2005-08-01
SAEED KHAN FROM USA said:
Ameen.
2005-08-01
AHMED FROM USA said:
killing of innocent is haram, either in london or in Iraq and afghanistan. The killing of muslims at the hand of american and british soldier is same as london bombing. Why is that this kind of fiqh councils never issue fatwa against that in the limelight of media.
THey issue fatwa that it is haram to "2. It is haram for a Muslim to cooperate with any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or violence.", but they never issue fatwa that it is haram to cooperate with american killer army to help them kill muslims in iraq and afghanistan.
3.28 Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return. Al-Imran [3:28]
5.57 O you who believe! Take not for Auliya (protectors and helpers) those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from among those who received the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before you, nor from among the disbelievers; and fear Allah if you indeed are true believers. Al-Ma'idah [5:57]
and many more..
these are just hypocrites..
4.144 O you who believe! Take not for Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?. An-Nisa [4:144]
4.139 Those who take disbelievers for Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honor, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honor, power and glory. An-Nisa [4:139]
29.41 The likeness of those who take Auliya (protectors and helpers) other than Allah is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spiders house; if they but knew. Al-'Ankabut [29:41]
THey issue fatwa that it is haram to "2. It is haram for a Muslim to cooperate with any individual or group that is involved in any act of terrorism or violence.", but they never issue fatwa that it is haram to cooperate with american killer army to help them kill muslims in iraq and afghanistan.
3.28 Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return. Al-Imran [3:28]
5.57 O you who believe! Take not for Auliya (protectors and helpers) those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from among those who received the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before you, nor from among the disbelievers; and fear Allah if you indeed are true believers. Al-Ma'idah [5:57]
and many more..
these are just hypocrites..
4.144 O you who believe! Take not for Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?. An-Nisa [4:144]
4.139 Those who take disbelievers for Auliya (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honor, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honor, power and glory. An-Nisa [4:139]
29.41 The likeness of those who take Auliya (protectors and helpers) other than Allah is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spiders house; if they but knew. Al-'Ankabut [29:41]
2005-08-01
SHEHU USMAN SHA FROM NIGERIA said:
That is a nice step taken, but the council should know that their host AMERICA, is also a terrorist country,What fatwa will the council issue against her host.
2005-08-01
ADAM IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD FROM NIGERIA said:
Agreed.
Hope this will stop the nonsense call that the acts of wilful killings is condone by muslims. We equally awaits similar rulings by the Christian fundamentalists on Israel, Bush and his Cohorts. But will it come?
Agreed.
Hope this will stop the nonsense call that the acts of wilful killings is condone by muslims. We equally awaits similar rulings by the Christian fundamentalists on Israel, Bush and his Cohorts. But will it come?
2005-08-01
MALCOLM FROM U.S.A. said:
Salam alaikum.
The ayat you referred to, "..it would be as if he slew the whole ppl.., etc." is taken out of context. This ayat refers to the story of Cain. Murdering one for his/her ideals is as if you those that uphold the ideal. This is what the ayat is about. Stop taking ayat out of context in order to appease your neighbors. Speak the truth. Allah will reward you and you you will earn REAL respect from your neighbors. Refer, instead, to the hadith: Narrated Anas bin Malik - The Prophet (saws) said, "The biggest of Al-kabair (the great sins) are (1)to join others as partners with Allah, (2) TO MURDER A HUMAN BEING, (3) to be undutiful to one's parents and (4) to make a false statement or give false witness." Bukhari, vol. 9 hadith no. 10
Also, the fact that the "fiqh council" is issuing this fatwa but saying nothing of America's continued brutality across the globe (and even here in American territory) is cowardly and hypocritical. If you will issue a fatwa against your brother, have the guts, or the faith in Allah, to speak out against criminal first world regimes, like the so-called democratically elected governments of the United States.
salam alaikum
The ayat you referred to, "..it would be as if he slew the whole ppl.., etc." is taken out of context. This ayat refers to the story of Cain. Murdering one for his/her ideals is as if you those that uphold the ideal. This is what the ayat is about. Stop taking ayat out of context in order to appease your neighbors. Speak the truth. Allah will reward you and you you will earn REAL respect from your neighbors. Refer, instead, to the hadith: Narrated Anas bin Malik - The Prophet (saws) said, "The biggest of Al-kabair (the great sins) are (1)to join others as partners with Allah, (2) TO MURDER A HUMAN BEING, (3) to be undutiful to one's parents and (4) to make a false statement or give false witness." Bukhari, vol. 9 hadith no. 10
Also, the fact that the "fiqh council" is issuing this fatwa but saying nothing of America's continued brutality across the globe (and even here in American territory) is cowardly and hypocritical. If you will issue a fatwa against your brother, have the guts, or the faith in Allah, to speak out against criminal first world regimes, like the so-called democratically elected governments of the United States.
salam alaikum
2005-08-01
SYED FROM US said:
Ok, What about issuing a similar fatwa against illegal accupation of Muslims land, against killing civilians, and about asking Muslims to help Iraquies with what ever they can, to fight the enemy ? Do this people have the guts ? If they want Muslims to trust them they should take a balance stand, not just act like puppets.
2005-07-31
FALIKU KONNEH FROM UNITED STATES said:
Even though it is long overdue, the Fiqh Council of North America has finally done what it should have done long ago. What is significant about this fatwa is the fact that it is signed by some renowned and knowledgeable scholars of Islamic jurisprudence. The fact that Dr. Jamal Badawi is one of the signatories of this fatwa even lends more weight to it. Even though this fatwa will certainly not dissuade those who are bent on committing atrocities against mankind, at least it clearly defines the position of the well-meaning Muslims who are in fact in the majority. Clearly, Islam does not support extremism or terrorism as referenced in the verse quoted in the fatwa. So those who are committing these atrocities are just terrorists. Islam has got nothing to do with it. One can see that their attacks are not limited to just secular countries but also predominantly Muslim countries as well. They have struck Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Indonesia as well. And in these attacks, innocent Muslims were also killed; so how can anyone blame these acts on the peace-loving religion of Islam? It is rather unfortunate that those who are committing these acts are also Muslims, but Islam does not teach them to do what they are doing. The simple fact is: they are, first and foremost, human beings; and some human beings are just wicked by nature. This fact permeates all belief systems. I sincerely hope people will see Islam from a positive perspective instead of judging it by the acts of masterminds some of whom have been banished by their own fatherland. Assalam alaikum.
2005-07-31
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
There should a fatwa to arrest Bush and put him and his cronies on trial for committing crime against humanity...
2005-07-31
JACOB GALBREATH FROM U.S.A. said:
I don't find myself as a religious man, but bless you. As a citizen and a Sailor I thank you for publicly denouncing terrorism and helping support those of us that believe that ALL Americans and people should be free and at peace.
2005-07-31
