ISLAM THE UNTOLD TRUTH -PART (3)

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE BENIFICIENT THE MERCIFUL

All Praises are for Allah (S) the Creator and Sustainer. I seek his blessing on our noble Prophet Muhammad (S).

      We were told by Allah (S) to invite all mankind to his Deen (religion, Way of life) when he said:

Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. (Q. 16:125)

He further said:

�We have not sent thee but as a universal Messenger to all mankind�but most of mankind know not.� (Qur. 34:28). 

  Allah (S) is telling us, most of mankind does not recognize Muhammad (S) as a Prophet, Why? Because they are not interesting to know and the Devil is keeping them busy with this world. Our Job is to inform them, we have to convey the message. He Allah (S) says in the Quran:

Those who fallow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mention in their own (Scriptures), In the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q. 7:157).

  He is telling us, look this man Muhammad (S), he was unlettered  and it is He Allah (S) who sent him as a Prophet, which was foretold, and prophesied in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). So go and look it up and inform the Israelites and those who call themselves Christians, who claimed to have following the Messiah (S). He said:

And thou (O Muhammad) was not (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers of vanity have doubted. (Q. 29:48)

Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by one mighty in power. (Q. 53:3-5)

MUHAMMED (S) IN REVELATION 12

THE UNIVERSAL PROPHET AND THE COMING OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Before I get into the prophecy itself I would like to mention the Christians� position; they said that this chapter is about Yesus (Jesus) pbuh but if you read Islam the untold truth part (2) you will recognize it has nothing to do with him.

ISLAM THE UNTOLD TRUTH -PART (2)

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Anyway, let�s get straight to it. In verse one to ten it mentioned of a woman who will give birth to a man child who was to rule all nation; and when he comes then the Kingdom of God and salvation will come. It also mentioned of the �devil kingdom� (the great red Dragon having seven heads and ten horn, and seven crowns upon his heads). He will try to kill the man child but he will fail and the child will caught up unto God Almighty and the woman two wings and she will fled in to the wilderness a two thousand two hundred and sixty days.

�¹And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; A WOMAN clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: ²And she being with child, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered �And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron�Now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God� (Rev. 12:5-10.)

�And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horn, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born (Rev. 12:3-4)

Now, the question is, why revelation 12 is not a prophecy about Yesus (Jesus) pbuh? There are many reasons and some of them are as follows:

1)      If Rev.12 was about Yesus (Jesus) pbuh present time in the past where He was ascended to Heaven then that does not add up because Rev.12:5 mentioned:

 ï¿½And she brought forth man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron...�

And Yesus (Jesus) pbuh didn�t fulfill that, he did not even rule the Jews!

2)      If in his second coming he will ascend to God�s Throne why come when he is already on the throne?

�MAN CHILD� and HER CHILD was caught up unto God�.

3)      Also In his second coming when he would have ascended to God�s Throne would the Jewish�s nation fled into the wilderness or they would be his sheep and he would be their King? It doesn�t add up. Why the woman (the Jewish�s nation as some Christian�s commentators claimed) fled in to the wilderness for a thousand two hundred and threescore days when all nee supposed to bow in his second coming?

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev. 12:6)

In his second coming according to Revelation 19 he will not caught up unto God and the Jewish nation will not fled into the wilderness. His second coming according to revelation 19:11, 19-21 he will come with his army to expose all false religion, destroy the Devil (Beast) and his army and cast them into the lake of fire. Revelation 19:11. It mentioned:

�he will wage war in righteousness� Is there any such thing as righteous war or holy war? Is that Jihad against the devil?

�And I saw heaven open, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called faithful and true.  And in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (Rev. 19:11).

�And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.�  (Rev. 19: 19-21)

 On the other hand Revelation 12: 3-5 mentioned:

�And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born 5And she brought forth man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne�.  (Rev. 12:3-5)

      That man child is not a prophecy of Yesus (Jesus) pbuh! We see clearly that Yesus (Jesus) pbuh did not fulfilled revelation 12. The Man child who was to rule all nations, he is the universal Prophet who Yesus (Jesus) pbuh prophecies will come when the kingdom of God comes, he is the one who will bring the universal book which mentioned in Rev.10 and 14:6-7.

Br. Zainool

1)       The �main poin�t that revelation 12 is not a prophecy about Yesus (Jesus) pbuh, is the fact that when this man child comes then the �kingdom of God which is another message and salvation� will come. Yesus (Jesus) pbuh told us that the Kingdom will be taken away from the Jews and Given to another nation meaning, that male child will have to come from �the other nation� with that message and Yesus (Jesus) pbuh was from the tribe of Israelite.

Quote:

�Jesus said unto them (Jews), Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the builders reject the same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord�s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore say I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you (The Jews), and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken: but whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.� (Matt. 21:42-44)

That was his mission, to inform people of the coming of God�s kingdom on earth. It mentioned in Luke chapter 4 verse 43, Yesus (Jesus) pbuh said:

 ï¿½I must preach KINGDOM OF GOD to the other cities also, because for THIS PURPOSE I have been sent" (Luke 4:43 NKJV)

And of God�s kingdom he gave lots of parable, in Mark chapter 4 and Matthew chapter 6 verses 31-32 he put it in a nut shell so to speak or I should say, all the other message build on that. But first let�s look at what his disciples thought of it. It mentioned:

And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. (Luke 19:11)

They thought that the kingdom of God would come down from Heaven and appear suddenly and In Luke chapter 17 verse 20 he told the Pharisees the kingdom of God does not come with Observation:

�And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:� (Luke 17:20)

Why the kingdom of God cometh not with �observation�? It is because the kingdom of God is the �word of God� and when it is revealing no one can see it and when you receive it and it is in your heart, it means it is within you�in Luke chapter 17 verse 21, Yesus (Jesus) pbuh told his disciples that the kingdom of God is within you. Can you see it when it when it is in you or when it is revealing? No! But when you educate yourself with it, it is in you; and when you put it into action it became physical aspect.

�Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.� (Luke17:21)

In Mark chapter 4 Yesus (Jesus) pbuh spell out the entire prophesy. He begins by using parable then he explained it. It read as follows: 

1 hearken; behold, there went out a sower to sow:

4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.

5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:

6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.

7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.

8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.

9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

In verses 1 to 9 he told of the kingdom in parable and in verse 10, when he was with his disciples alone they asked him about the parable.

10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.

He them told them:

11 And he said unto them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be �converted�, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Then he questioned his disciples:

13 and he said unto them, know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

Then he explained to them in verses 14 to 20:

14 THE SOWER SOWETH THE �WORD�.

15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;

17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word�s sake, immediately they are offended.

18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,

19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

Here in verses 21 and 22 he described that the �word of God� is �a light on a candle stick�

21 And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?

22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

23 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

24 And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

25 For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

Now he revealed the truth what is the kingdom of God:

26 AND HE SAID, SO IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AS IF A MAN SHOULD CAST SEED INTO THE GROUND;

27 And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

28 For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.

29 But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.

He then asked them:

30 AND HE SAID, WHEREUNTO SHALL WE LIKEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD? OR WITH WHAT COMPARISON SHALL WE COMPARE IT?

Then he told them:

31 it is like �a grain of mustard seed�, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: 32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. (Mark 4: 2-31)

Matthew chapter 6 verses 31-32 he summarized. Let�s look at it. It mentioned:

 ï¿½Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to �a grain of mustard seed�, which �a man� took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh �a tree�, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches. (Matthew 6:31-32)

That is how God�s government will set up, by sowing of a seed by a man. What is the �grain of mustard seed?� It is a �message, the word of God to come�.  To be more explicit, in Luke chapter 8 verse 11 says, that the �seed� represent the �word of God�. It read as follows:

Now the parable is this: The �seed� is the �word of God�. (Luke 8:11)

That would mean the �seed� which is the �word of God� and the �man� is the one who will deliver that message and when it grows and become �a tree��the establishment of God�s laws, God government on earth. The coming of that �message� is the coming of God�s Kingdom on earth as it mentioned in Revelation 12; and the coming of the message mentioned in rev. 14:6-7.

It mentioned:

�And I saw another angel fly in the midst of haven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying with aloud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.� ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2014:6-7&version=9 - )

That is the future tense! The book of Revelation Ch. 14: 6-7 which is a part of the Bible (Collection of books), which is already here, it�s mentioned of an �angel coming from heaven� with the everlasting gospel for all nations. The Greek word �Euaggelion� which translate as Gospel, it literal meaning is �Good News�. The NWT got it correct.

6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting GOOD NEWS to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: �FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.� (Rev.14: 6-7 NWT)

VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE: This everlasting good news was coming from �Heaven�, having an �angel bringing it�, and it was describe as a �Judgment� to �preach� to all nations. That Judgment was the criterion between rights and wrong, that Judgment there is the Law (His will) to preach unto them that dwell on earth (all nations).

The �Judgment� mentioned there was the� law� it is mentioned Isaiah 42 and John 16:8 it reads as follows:

 ï¿½Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spirit upon him: he shall bring forth �judgment� to the Gentile�4- He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has �set judgment� in the earth: and the isles shall wait for �his law�. (Isaiah.42:1-4)�

It says: �till he has set judgment in the earth and the isles shall wait for his law�. As we can see the everlasting Good News for all nations is the Judgment to the Gentiles, which is God�s everlasting laws on earth and Isaiah pbuh described him as God�s servant.

The striking truth is, Yesus (Jesus) pbuh said, when the Comforter comes he also will reprove the world of sin, and righteousness, and Judgment.

�And when he (the Comforter) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of �judgment.�� (John.16:8)

What that mean is, the Comforter is God�s servant. I have did a separate presentation on the entire chapter of Isaiah 42 together with �who is the Comforter?�

Now, if we ask any Christians, if the book that mentioned in revelation 14:6-7 ever revealed they will go blank! Why? Because it was never thought to them. Thing about it, the bible which is a collection of books, in one of the book name �Revelation� in chapter 14:6-7 is telling us there is �ANOTHER BOOK�EVERLASTING GOOD NEW� have to come �having an Angel bringing it from Heaven� which Yesus (Jesus) pbuh prophesied in Matthew 13:31-32 as the Kingdom of God, why Christians were never taught that in church? It was never thought in Christian�s Church because Yesus (Jesus) pbuh said, not everyone will recognize the kingdom of God

It was never thought in Christian�s Church because Yesus (Jesus) pbuh said, not everyone will recognize the kingdom of God

It mentioned in Matthew 13:10-17

10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.  (Matthew 13:10-15)

The people who will understand are the ones who see, hear and understand with their �heart�.

16But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear not.

17For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.  (Matthew 13:16-17)

That good news is the book that has already revealed to a man name Muhammed pbuh who is the seed of Abraham pbuh on the lineage of Ishmael pbuh.

And as for Ishmael�Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and multiply him exceedingly�and I will make a GREAT NATION.� (Genesis 17:20).

The book that revealed to Muhammed (S), Allah (S) has described the Qur�an as the Al-Furcon (The Criterion) judgment between right and wrong. It mentioned:

�Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) to His Servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures.� (Q.25:1)

A book, whereof the verses are explained in detail-A Qur�an in Arabic, for people who understand-Giving Good News and admonition: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not. (Q.41:3-4)

The Quran it fulfilled the prophecy in the bible revelation 14: 6-7. Let take another look again what revelation says, it mentioned:

6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people�because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived....� (Rev.14: 6-7 NWT)

Allah (S) says:

�Thus have We revealed it (the Qur�an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic� (Q. 13:37)

Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and Judgment (Between right and wrong). (Qur. 2:185)

�it is no less than a Message for all creatures (mankind and jinn). (Q. 12:104)

Say, the Holy Spirit (Angel Gabriel) has brought the revelation from thy Lord in truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a guide, and Glad Tidings to Muslims. (Q. 16:102)�This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.� (Qur.10:37)

Not only that, Allah (S) tells us it was announces in the previous books:

 ï¿½Without doubt it is (announced) in the reveled books (Torah, Gospel) of former people. (Q. 26:196) And this is a book which We have sent down, bringing blessing and conforming (the revelation) which came before it. (Q. 6:92)

       There is no doubt about it, when we go and look into the revelation of former people it is there in Revelation 14:6-7. Prophecy fulfilled exact like a gloves.

 ï¿½so fear Allah and obey me. (Q.3:50); ye who believe! Fear Allah as He should fear, and die not except in a state of Islam. (Q.3:102)

1.      And glorify Him morning and evening. (Q.33:42)

2.      Thus have We revealed it (the Qur�an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic (Q.13:37)

What Revelation 14-7 says? 

It says: �Fear God and Give Glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come!�

Allah (S) said:

�A book, whereof the verses are explained in detail-A Qur�an in Arabic, for people who understand-Giving Good News and admonition: yet most of them turn away, and so they hear not. (Q.41:3-4)

THE KINGDOM OF GOD TO COME IS ISLAM THE SHARIA LAW.

Yesus (Jesus) pbuh  thought his followers to pray for when it will come and the coming of it, the Most High name will sanctify and God�s will would be done on earth Matt. 6:9-10�.

�After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.�( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:9-13&version=9 - )

Coming of God Almighty kingdom on earth �His� will� shall be done on earth. What is the will? God�s will is his divine law. The coming Kingdom is a message from God for all nations. He said: �Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven;� what he was preaching is �Submission to the will of God� which when translate in Arabic is �Islam� will be done on earth.� (Thy kingdom come, �Islam� will be done in earth)

Jesus (S) himself preached Islam. He said:

 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%205:30&version=9 - - John 5: 30 .

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:21-22

According to those two verse Jesus (s) call God his Father. So I will clarifies who is his father from what is written in John 20:16-17, he Jesus (S) said:

��Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and my God, and your God.� (John 20:16-17 AKJV)

According to him, his Father is �OUR GOD and HIS GOD; He has a GOD, He said: �MY GOD AND YOUR GOD�. So the verses should read as follows:

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of my God which hath sent me. (John5: 30).

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my God which is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21-22)

In others words, he submit to the will of his God and he preached �submission to the will of his God� which when translate to Arabic would mean �Islam�.

All Prophets preached �submission to the will of God� (Islam). Allah (s) informs us in the Noble Qur�an.

�The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)�But if you deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.� (Quran. 3:19)

To every people did We appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they might celebrate the name of Allah over the sustenance He gave them from animals (fit for food). But your god is One God: submit then your wills to Him (in Islam): and give thou the good news to those who humble themselves, (Quran. 22:34)

Those Prophets was sent to their own nation respectively according to their own language:

�For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with the Command), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).� (Qur.16: 36); and �We sent not an apostle except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom.� (Quran. 14:4)

For example Jesus (S) was sent to the Children of Israel:

�But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.�  (Matthew 15: 24); These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.� (Matthew 10:5-6)

Muhammad (S) on the other hand was sent as a universal Messenger to all mankind, Allah (S) mentioned in Qur�an:

�We have not sent thee but as a (universal messenger) to all mankind�but most of mankind knew not�. (Q. 34:28)

SALVATION

Now, that�s bringing us to another point, �SALVATION�. Salvation and the Kingdom of God come in the future after the demise of Jesus (S).

Salvation is not by blood because it comes after the demise of Yesus (Jesus) pbuh, so, this verse is a contradiction/ a concoction in Revelation 12:11 �And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,� (Rev 12:11)

In the book of Habakkuk it mentioned who will bring salvation. I quote:

 ï¿½ï¿½And the Holy One from Mount Paran. Se-lah. His Glory covered the heaven, and the earth was full of his praise. He stood and measured the earth�he beheld and drove asunder the nations�His way are everlasting�at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear. Thou didst tresh the heathen in anger. Thou wentest forth for Salvation of thy people, even Salvation for the anointed� (Habakkuk. 3:3-13(KJV))

     None of the Israelites, including Yesus (Jesus) pbuh , had anything to do with Paran. Hagar, with her son Ishmael, wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba, who afterwards dwelt in the wilderness of Paran.

�And he [Ishmael (S)] dwelt in the wilderness of Paran� (Genesis 21:21)

It is the Holy One from Mt. Paran will bring �Salvation�; and Muhammad (S) is the descendant of Ishmael. See how all the message fall in context?

But note also: It says also �even Salvation for the anointed�. That would mean the second coming of the Messiah (S) to establish what the Holy One from Mt. Paran brought. Jesus (s) prophesied that in Mark chapter 14 verse 25, he said:

�Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that i drink �it new� in the kingdom of God. ". (Mark 14:25)

The truth is so sweet when it is revealed! More conformation, Yesus (Jesus) pbuh also told the Jews the Kingdom of God would be taken away from them.

�Jesus said unto them (Jews), Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the builders reject the same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord�s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore say I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you (The Jews), and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken: but whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.� (Matt. 21:42-44)

The stone Yesus (Jesus) pbuh spoke of was a �message�. If you reject Jesus (S) you automatically reject his �message� of the coming kingdom of God; and that message which is the coming kingdom of God would be taken away from the Jews and given to another nation, and it would bare fruits and be �MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES�, and no other message would be able destroy it and where ever the message establish it will prevail over all other message (man-made law). Sure Yesus (Jesus) pbuh is not the stone because he is not marvelous in our eyes.

  The nation that fulfilled that is no other than Ishmaelite Abraham�s pbuh seeds; the God of Abraham�s promise to bless Abraham�s son Ishmael and make him a Great nation. It mentioned in Genesis 17: 20.

�And as for Ishmael�Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and multiply him exceedingly�and I will make a GREAT NATION.� (Genesis 17:20).

It mentioned in Luke: And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. Luke 13:29)

Yesus (Jesus) pbuh said: ��BY THE FRUIT YE SHALL KNEW THEM.� (Matt. 7:20) AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES.

 ï¿½Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:� (Matt. 13:47)

THE POWER OF CHRIST

And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron�Now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and power of his Christ� (Rev. 12:5-10).

It also mentioned there: �Now come�the power of Christ� (Rev. 12:10)

Note: It says �power of Christ�. And not Christ!

What is his power? It is the arrival of the Kingdom of God; and Kingdom of God is also the �rod of iron� it was prophesied by Yesus (Jesus) pbuh.

This is the power of Christ, He said:

�And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken�� (Matt.  21:44)

As I have explained Matthew 21:42-43 that the stone represent the message which is the kingdom of God and it would be taken away from the Jews and given to another nation and that message will bear fruit and be marvelous in our eyes. So, when it mentioned, �whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken�� That would mean no other message would be able to destroy it (the final message/ the Kingdom of God). That is the Power of Christ! He will rule all nations with the rod of iron.

THE ROD OF IRON IS KINGDOM OF GOD

What is the rod of iron? The rod of iron is also the kingdom of God, which is the final message. He will rule them with the final message, the Kingdom of God. The verse continues from Matthew 21: 44

��Whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder� (Matt. 21:44)

That is the rod of iron! In other words, the message will prevail over all other messages, which is the establishment of the true message of Jesus Christ (s) the kingdom of God on earth, Islam. Allah (s) said:

�It is He (God Almighty) who has sent His Messenger [Muhamed (S)] with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) that He may make it prevail over all religions and enough is Allah for a witness.�  (Quran 48:28)

You see that? It shows how the Christian�s commentators does twist the scriptures to fit Yesus (Jesus) pbuh.

WHO IS THE WOMAN OR WHAT SHE REPRESENT?  

�¹And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; A WOMAN clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: ²And she being with child, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered �And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron�Now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God� (Rev. 12:5-10.)

Let�s find out who is this woman or what she represents? According to some Christian�s Scholars the woman represents the �church� and some says the woman represents the �Jewish�s nation�.

If we look at Rev.12 verse 6 and14; and Rev.11 verse 4 both tied into each other and it reflects the meaning of the �WOMAN� as the Church. It mentioned:

�And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev. 12:6)  

�And to the woman were given two wings�that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev. 12:14)

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, And they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Rev.11:3-4)  

The evidence that the woman represents the church is that the woman was given �two wings� and fled into the wilderness for 1,260 days where the same period also reflect in Rev.11:4. Those �two wings� are the two witnesses, the two olive trees and two candles stick; and the Candlesticks represent churches: 

��the seven candlestick which thou sawest are seven churches.� Rev. 1:20

So, we can conclude that the �woman� represents the �Church�

Also if we go to Revelation 19 and read verse 7-9 we would recognize that the woman represents the church. It mentioned:

�Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of the saint.� (Rev.19:7-8)

The saints that mentioned in Revelation 19:7-8 are the believers and they came from �her and she� which is referring to the �church� when the church would have well established for the coming of the Messiah. So we can see from that proof the �woman� represents the �Church� and not the Jewish�s nation. Also, woman represents a �great city�:

�And the woman which thou saws is that great city�� (Rev.17:18).

 Meaning, the Church will also become a Great city. The reason why some Christian�s commentator says the woman represent the Jewish�s nation is because in many place in the Old Testament they (Jewish nation) were address as a woman but that is because the �church� was with them.

Now that we know that the �woman� represents the �church�; that would mean this man child was to come and establish the church universally to all nations and the Devil will tried to kill him but would failed in the attempt and he (the man child) will caught up unto God.

WHO OR WHAT IS THE RED DRAGON?

If Muhammad (S) fulfilled revelation 12 then who or what is this �Red dragon�? The great red dragon represents the Pagan Empire, the seven head represent Seven Empire with each with a king. The enemy of the church at that time is the Sixth Empire and it was mentioned in Rev.17:10.

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come (Rev. 17:10)

  At the time of this prophesies in Rev.17:10 five Empire has fallen and one exists (The Pagan Empire) at the time of this prophesy and the other (Modern day Pagan Empire) is yet to come. At the advent of Muhammed (S) they Pagans tried to kill him but he became victorious and then died and caught up unto God.

Then later on the Pagans wage war against the Roman Christian (people of the Book at that time) and defeated them. Then the Roman�s Christian (the people of the Book at that time) under Heracles defeated the Persian Empire in March 628. After which the Romans reject the Message of the Qur�an, then Allah remove them from the light and place them into darkness and they eventually became the Crusaders 7^th king, �a new form of Christianity�.  

Allah revealed to Muhammad (S)

�The Romans have been defeated. In the nearest land Syria Iraq Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these events) is only with Allah, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that day, the believers (i.e. Muslims) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allah to the Romans against the Persians).� (N.Q. 30:2-4)

THE WOMAN FLED INTO THE WILDERNESS

The woman which is the church that Great City fled into the wilderness and that is Paran (Arabia) Gen.21:21, where she hath a place prepared of God that they Pilgrims should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev. 12:6)         

That is 1260 years according to the scripture each day represent a year; and that is the same period Islam rule the world. It mentioned:

"After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise."  (Numbers 14:34)

The woman were given two wings is the church �split in two� and fled into the wilderness of Paran and the serpent is the great red dragon which were the Pagans now merge with the Romans and they represents the crusaders.

 Now we have two branches (Sunney and Shia) of the one church and it was describe as �two witness� in Revelation 11:3-4.

�And to the woman were given two wings�that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev. 12:14) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, And they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Rev. 11:3-4)  

How we know that?  Both fled into the wilderness the same period 1260 yrs as I have said before.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (Rev. 12:6)

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, And they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Rev.11:3-4)  

 ï¿½ï¿½the seven candlestick which thou sawest are seven churches.� (Rev. 1:20)

The Romans were them defeated by the Muslims, there emerges a �new� Christianity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_I - (590-604), he converted the Anglo-Saxon invaders of Great Britain to his new form of Christianity (Pagan Christianity) which later known as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade -   [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptarchy - ] then evolve in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world - as the eight king (Modern day Pagan�s Empire) and he will go into eternal damnation.

 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev. 17:11)

The eight Empire was prophesy in Rev. 6:7-8:

And when he had open the forth seal�a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him, And power was given unto him over the forth part of the earth (New world: the west), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. (Rev. 6:7-8)

The Global Freemasonry which is under the banner �Crusaders� led by Pope Urban II in 1095, he manage to mobilize France England Germany and Italy to persecute the woman, the church that great city.

   �And to the woman were given two wings�that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev. 12:14)     

      The serpent is the dragon mentioned in Rev.12:3 and it represents the crusaders which is the seventh king. I have mentioned above, the Church is �Islam� and the �two wings or the two olive trees and two candles stick� is the two branches from the same church�the two large groups of Muslims (Sunnies and Shias):

Abu Hurayrah said, �The Prophet (S) said, �The Hour will not come until the following events have come to pass: two large groups will fight one another, and there will be many casualties; they will both be following the same religious teaching� Knowledge will disappear, earthquake will increase, time will pass quickly, affliction will appear, and Harj (i.e. killing) will increase. Wealth will increase�People will compete in constructing high building�the sun will rise from the west; When it rises and people see it, the will believe, but, �no good will it do a soul to believe then, if he believed not before nor earned righteousness through its faith��(al-An am 6:158; Bukhari, kitab al-Fitan,9/74)

The Crown of twelve stars represents the twelve prince of the Ishmaelite:

�¹And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; A WOMAN clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

as for Ishmael�twelve prince shall he beget; I will make him a great nation. (Gen. 17:20)

     The prophecy fits like a glove. That goes to shows how the Christians� commentators does twist the scriptures to fit Jesus (s). I will touch on the last couple of verses, verse 15 o 17 of rev. 12.

�         ¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. (Rev. 12:15)

Water represent �people� Rev. 17:15

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (Rev.17:15)

    That would mean, the crusader send out to their missionaries to convert the people of the church. But verse 16 tells us what happen when they did that.

�         ¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. (Rev. 12:16)

    How the earth help the woman which is the church? It is the wealth (oil) of the earth caught their attention and they go after that so they cannot make war with the church that great city because they want the wealth, PETRO DOLLAR.

�         ¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Rev. 12:17)

     And the crusader became angry because they cannot make war directly with the church that great city in the wilderness.

 [And to the woman were given two wings�that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev.12:14)].

So they went after her the remnant of her seed (e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.) and make war, which keep the commandments of God, the universal message, the kingdom of God and true teaching of Yesus (Jesus) pbuh the Messiah.

     The explanation I have put forward here there is now doubt that Muhammad (S) fulfilled Revelation 12. I have established that the �woman� mentioned in revelation 12 is the Church and the church is with the Muslims, and the man child who was to rule all nation is the universal prophet, and he is no other than Muhammad (S); and I establish that Yesus (Jesus) pbuhdid not fulfilled that prophecy

Allah (s) said:

�         �Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the truth that hath come to thee�� (Q. 5:47-48)

�         �There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, �That is from Allah,� But it is not from Allah: it is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Q. 3:78)

• O People of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that you used to hide in your Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary): There hath come to you from Allah a light [Muhamed (pbuh)] and a perspicuous Book.� (Q. 5:15)
• �So fear Allah, and obey me [Muhamed (S) and the message he brought]. (Q. 3:50)
• Verily this Qur�an doith guide to that which is most right. (Q. 17:9)
• Say: �O People of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that comes to us and that which came before (us)�?� (Q. 5:59)
• Your companion is neither astray nor mislead, of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him: he was taught by one Mighty in Power. (Q. 53:2-5)
• �And nearest among them in love to the Believers wilt thou find those who say, We are Christians Because among these are men devoted to learning and who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. (Q. 5:82)

Allah (S) instructs us:

•  ï¿½Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and who receive guidance.� (Q. 16:125)
• And whoever contradicts and apposes the Messenger [Muhammad (pbuh)] after the right path has been shown clearly to him. And follows other others than the believers� way, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in hell � what an evil destination! (N.Q. 4:115)
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• Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sin than this: one who join other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the right) (Q .4:116)
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• And those who are firmly grounded with knowledge say: �We believe in it (the Qur�an); the whole of it (clear and unclear verses) are from our Lord:� and none will grasp the message except men of understanding. (Q. 3:7)
• The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)�But if you deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. (Q.3:19)
• If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). (Q. 3:85)
• �And say to the People of the Book��Do ye (also) submit yourselves?� If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah�s sight are (all) His servants. (Q. 3:20)
• Not all of them are alike: Of the People of the Book is a portion that stand (for the right)�they rehearse the Sign of Allah all night long� (Q. 3:113)
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Narrated Abu Burdah�s father: Allah�s Messenger (S) said, ��if any man of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) believes in his own Prophet and then believes in me [Muhamed (pbuh)] too, he will (also) get a double reward� [Sahih Al Bukari, 7/5083 (O.P.20)]                                                                           

• The day that certain of the signs of thy Lord do come, no good will it do to a soul to believe in them then, if it believed not before nor earned righteousness through its Faith. (Q. 6:158)

Narrated Abu Hurairah �: Allah�s Messenger (pbuh) said, �The Hour will not be established until the sun rises from the west; and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the surface of the earth, will have faith, and that is (the time) when no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before.� [Sahih Al-Bukhari, 6/4635 (O.P.159)]

• Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of God: for God forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Q .39:53-54) 
• "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped. (Q. 39:054)

Allah (S) said:

• �Had We sent down this Qur'�n on a mountain, you would surely have seen it humbling itself and rending asunder by the fear of All�h. Such are the parables which We put forward to mankind that they may reflect. (Q. 59:21) 

• ( http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam/quran/surah61.html - ) - 6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of All�h unto you confirming the Taur�t [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic."

• 7. And who does more wrong than the one who invents a lie against All�h while he is being invited to Isl�m? And All�h guides not the people who are, Z�lim�n (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

• 8. They intend to put out the Light of All�h (i.e. the religion of Isl�m, this Qur'�n, and Prophet Muhammad ) with their mouths. But All�h will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it).

• 9. He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad ) with guidance and the religion of truth (Isl�mic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrik�n (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of All�h and in His Messenger Muhammed ) hate (it).�

SPREAD THE TRUTH!

 ï¿½Truth has (now) come, and falsehood perished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Q. 17:81)

The warning from Allah (S), He said:

�Those who conceal the clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the people in the Book,-on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse,� (Q. 2:159)

Those who conceal Allah's revelations in the Book, and purchase for them a miserable profit, - they swallow into themselves naught but Fire; Allah will not address them on the Day of Resurrection. Nor purify them: Grievous will be their penalty. (Q. 2:174)

DavidC wrote: Notes: Revelation was written by John of Patmos many years after Jesus' reported crucifixion. The book states that the events in this book were visions given to the author and not actual events. The weight of interpretation rests upon the reader.

Jesus said:

^{6 "}I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word."  ¹¹ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. (kjv)

Jesus (S) �testified to his God� that he �manifested� his God own name and his disciples kept his word meaning: in �his word� which his disciples would have kept and wrote, God�s name suppose to be in it, if it is not there then it is not the word of Jesus and his disciples. What you have there as original is an �English translation which derive from a Greek translation with concoction �. The mother thong of Jesus and his disciples was Hebrew and Aramaic:

But what is Aramaic?
Aramaic, a Semitic language used widely in the ancient Near East, was used by Jews from the Second Temple period and onward.

The term Aramaic is derived from Aram, a grandson of Noah. Aramaic is a three thousand year old language. It was first cited in ancient royal inscriptions between 900-700 B.C.E.

Between about 700-320 B.C.E., Aramaic held a position similar to that occupied by English today. Jews started to shift from Hebrew to Aramaic sometime between 721-500 B.C.E. Aramaic became the everyday language of the Jewish masses. "Jesus and his disciples spoke and wrote in Aramaic".

http://www.studylight.org/lexicons/aramaic.html

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DavidC wrote: Notes: Revelation was written by John of Patmos many years after Jesus' reported crucifixion.

Allah (S) said in the Qur�an:

And they said (in boast), �we killed Christ the son of Mary, the apostle of Allah�:- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so, and those who differ therein are full of doubt with no (certain) knowledge, but they follow only conjecture, for of a surety they killed him not. (Q.4:157)

 So He Allah (S) instructed the Prophet (S) to say:

�Say: �Produce your proof if ye speak the truth��. (Q.2:111)

I will examine the proof.  In the N.T. in John 16:16 (KJV) Jesus (s) told his disciples:

�A little http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3397 - - while, http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2532 - - and ye http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2334 - - shall http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3756 - - not http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2334 - - see http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3165 - - me: http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2532 - - and http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3825 - - again, a little http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3397 - - while, http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2532 - - and ye shall http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3700 - - see http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3165 - - me, http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3754 - - http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=1473 - - http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=5217 - - http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=4314 - - the http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3962 - - � John 16:16 (KJV)

AFTER THE SUPPOSE CRUCIFIXION:

And when she (Mary Magdalene) had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and she knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? Whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener... ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2020:14-15&version=9 - - John 20:14-15 )

  Mary knew Jesus (S) all through his ministry and within a day and a half she did not recognize him, she took him for a gardener, why? Is it another man �the gardener� God Almighty substitute instead of Jesus (S) and place a spirit (Rooh) upon him to act as Jesus (S)? I suppose, if a Christians saw the so call photo of Jesus (s) now and after twenty years they would recognize it, is that a fact? O Yes! Even the disciples did not know him:

��But the disciples knew him not that it was Jesus.� http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2021:4&version=9 - - John 21:4

Why? Because it was not him! Qur�an conforms that:

But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so, and those who differ therein are full of doubt with no (certain) knowledge, but they follow only conjecture� (Q.4:157)

   Mary didn�t recognize him nether the Disciples. As the Qur�an rightly said: �There are full of doubt with no (certain) knowledge�

Behold! Allah said: �O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme... (Q.3:55)

  The question is when did it happen? Is it possible when Jesus was at Gethsemane, because all the disciples were asleep which also indicate it was night too (see http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%20%2026:40&version=9 - ) and that is where they laid hold on him (the supposed Jesus the Gardiner) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%20%2026:57&version=9 - . May be, Allah (S) has placed a Spirit (Rooh) on him (the gardener) to act as Jesus (S). Of course, it was night and no one had that in mind [that Allah (S) will replace him with another man �the gardener� who Mary recognizes as. 

  Allah (S) said:

�And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planner is Allah! (Q.3:54)

   To be more certain it is not Jesus (S) we can look at the accounts of John when they were about to capture him:

   It is mentioned in http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2018:1-8&version=9 - - John 18:1-8

V1When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with the disciples over the brook Cedron, where was a �GARDEN,� into which he entered, and his disciples.

V.3 Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.

V.4 Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth and said unto them, whom seek ye?

V.5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.

V.6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, the went backward, and fell on the ground.

V.7 Then ask he them again, whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.

V.8 Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way.

  There you can see how Christians miss the boat. They did see that his enemy didn�t �recognize� the man to be Jesus (S).

 They were asking for Jesus of Nazareth, Why? Because he was not there! V.4 says that: �Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth and said unto them, whom seek ye?�  Think about it, Jesus was asking them �whom seek ye?� and what they said? V.5 �They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth.� why? Because they didn�t recognize him as Jesus (S) and he was just in front of them, and the suppose Jesus �the gardener� according to Mary in John 20:15 where she supposing him to be the gardener said: �I am he�. And what happen after that? V.6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell on the ground. Why? They were shock to know that they man whom they were looking for was right in front of them and they fall back, because they didn�t recognize him. AGAIN when he asks them in Verse7 they insisted �Jesus of Nazareth� why again? Because they didn�t recognize him to be Jesus (S), but the supposed Jesus the gardener insisted �I am he,� and in V. 8 he said: �I have told you that I am he� more emphasis add here, why? Because they didn�t recognize him as Jesus (S), and also where they caught him? In the �garden,� and what Mary said? �She supposes him to be the gardener.� Coincident!

 You see! He look like a �gardener� and was caught in the �garden�, And they didn�t �recognize� him. It was not him!

I've established that:

1- Mary didn't RECONIZE HIM, Why?

2- The Disciples didn't RECONIZE HIM, Why?

3- And also when Judas and his band went to capture him they didn't RECONOZE HIM, Why?

4- They captured him in the GARDEN,

5- And Mary took him for a GARDENER.

 And Allah (S) said:

�That the rejected Faith; That they utter against Mary a grave false charge; That they said (in boast): We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah, But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so, and those who differ therein are full of doubt with no (certain) knowledge, but they follow only conjecture, for a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him (Jesus) before his death; And on the Day of Judgment he (Jesus) will be a witness against them.� (Q.4:156-159)

Even the supposed Jesus they did not kill as you read on:

Jesus said unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and said unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus said unto her, Touch me not, for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and my God, and your God. ( http://www.studylight.org/isb/bible.cgi?query=joh+20%3A17&section=0&it=kjv&oq=joh%252020%3A17&ot=bhs&nt=na&new=1&nb=joh&ng=20&ncc=20 - - KJV)

 Remember he told the disciples:

�A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.� (John 16:16)

 And Christians understand it to mean that, he will die and resurrect; But the suppose Jesus is telling Mary he did not go to the father (died) as yet but go and tell them he did, �I http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=305 - - ascend � all ready died.  But the Devil is quick to draw the vial over your eyes in changing �I ascend� to �I will go�, I am returning. See other translations and compare it with the KJV

Allah (S) said:

For of a surety they killed him not. (Q. 4:157)

Now, please don�t tell me that he was going up in the sky because he was speaking to Mary on the earth and he said, �Say unto them, I ascend unto my Father.� He was just there in front of her.  

 Paul testified that Jesus (S) did not die:

Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him (God Almighty) that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared. ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%205:7&version=9 - - Hebrews 5:7 )

 To what extend he prayed? He said:

��My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death... And he went a little farther, and fell on his face. And prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou will.� ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2026:35-39&version=9 - - Matt. 26:28-29 )

  Also in http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2022:43-44&version=9 - - Luke 22:44

�And being in agony, he prayed more earnestly; and his sweet was, as it were, great drop of blood falling to the ground.� http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2022:43-44&version=9 - - Luke 22:44

And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. (Luke 22:43)

The angel assured him that God Almighty has answered his prayers:

The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%205:16&version=9 - - )

You see that! Paul knew, that why he confessed:

�Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him (God Almighty) that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared. ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%205:7&version=9 - - Hebrews 5:7 )

He knew the truth, he confesses that he lied!

He said: �If the truth of God is more abundant in my lies why should I call a sinner?�

In other words, if he tells some lies to bring people to God he should no call a sinner.

  Is God a curse? It mentioned in Galatians 3:13 and Deut. 21: 22-23:

¹³ Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (Galatians 3: 13)

²² And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:

²³ His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. (Deut. 21: 22-23)

Even some of the Jews knew that he didn�t died, but what they did not know is that, he was the suppose Jesus the gardener. Read for yourself:

62�Now the next day� the chief priest and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

64Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: So the LAST ERROR SHALL BE WORSE THAN THE FIRST ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew.27:62-64&version=9 - - Matt.27:62-64 �

  They are talking about FIRST ERROR and LAST ERROR. What is the first error? They knew that they didn�t kill the suppose Jesus.

  Jesus, interestingly, told the Pharisees too:

�go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice� [Matthew 9:13].

 We all agree that Jesus Christ (S) was a righteous and a pious man and the O.T. says that the wicked will take his place: �In the work of his own hands the wicked is snared" [Psalm 9:16],

"The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, And the treacherous is in the place of the upright� [Proverbs 21:18],

and "The righteous is delivered from trouble, But the wicked takes his place" [Proverbs 11:8].

Who say that? The God of theof the Jews!

  Last point, what is a resurrected body? Let Jesus tells us:

��For they are equal unto the angels,� Luke 20:27-27

 Meaning, that they will be angelised, they will be spiritualized, they will be Spirit! As to regards the suppose Jesus:

�Behold my hand and feet, that it is I myself: handle me and see: for a SPIRIT has no flesh and bone, as you see me have. (Luke 24:39-40)

If Christ be not risen from the dead, then our preaching is vain, and your faith is also vain. ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2015:14&version=9 - - I Corinthians 15:14 )

  Is the crucifixion true or doubtful? The Qur�an says, �It is doubt full with no certain knowledge� Why Mary didn�t recognize him, neither the disciples? Even when Judas and his band of men didn�t recognize him when they went to capture him, why? Because it was not him (it was doubt full)! I would not put my soul in something that is �doubt full!�

 And they said (in boast), �we killed Christ the son of Mary, the apostle of Allah�:- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so, and those who differ therein are full of doubt with no (certain) knowledge, but they follow only conjecture, for of a surety they killed him not. (Q. 4:157)

DavidC wrote: Please note my post pointedly said, "reported crucifixion" and not "crucifixion" in respect of the Qu'ran. Revelation was written after the reports of Jesus' crucifixion.

ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN AND NOT THE SON OF MAN

http://www.islamicity.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39403 - http://www.islamicity.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39403

A very important point to note: God �gives� unto him to �show� unto his servant�s things, which must shortly come to pass, and what he did? Verse 1 mentioned: ��and he (Jesus) sent and signified it by his ANGEL unto his servant John.�

 Jesus (S) did not come but he �sent and signified it with an ANGEL unto John� and whom John saw?

It stated in Rev. 1:12-13:

�And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.� (Rev. 1:12-13)

 ï¿½One like unto the Son of man� And not the son of man! It was that �Angel� who was sent to signify the vision unto John and not Jesus (S)! It was conformed in Rev. 22:8-9:

�And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which showed me these things. 9 And he said unto me (John), see thou do it not: for �I am� thy fellow servant, and of thy brothering the prophet� �WORSHIP GOD� (Rev. 22:8-9)

¹⁵ And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

¹⁶ And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

¹⁷ And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

2Acts wrote: Mohamad in Revelation 12 ? Nope ! The book of Revelation is a vision from Jesus Christ, given to Him by God the Father, which reveals what is going to happen before His return to establish the Kingdom of God on earth. This fascinating book is primarily written in a chronological style with occasional breaks for overviews of specific subjects. Revelation 12 is one of these overviews, providing a history stretching from the time before humans existed until the time just before Christ�s return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Child The woman (God�s chosen nation of Israel) is described as giving birth to a �male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron� (Revelation 12:5). Indeed, Christ was born into this nation. The verse continues, �And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.� The language here makes it clear that Jesus is the �Child.� Jesus is the One who is prophesied to �strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron� (Revelation 19:15). He is also the One who, after His resurrection, was taken up in a cloud to heaven (Acts 1:9-11).

Now he revealed the truth what is the kingdom of God:

shortly come to pass:

26 AND HE SAID, SO IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AS IF A MAN SHOULD CAST SEED INTO THE GROUND;

27 And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

28 For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.

29 But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.

He then asked them:

30 AND HE SAID, WHEREUNTO SHALL WE LIKEN THE KINGDOM OF GOD? OR WITH WHAT COMPARISON SHALL WE COMPARE IT?

Then he told them:

31 it is like �a grain of mustard seed�, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: 32 But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it. (Mark 4: 2-31)

Matthew chapter 6 verses 31-32 he summarized. Let�s look at it. It mentioned:

 ï¿½Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to �a grain of mustard seed�, which �a man� took, and sowed in his field: 32Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh �a tree�, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches. (Matthew 6:31-32)

That is how God�s government will set up, by sowing of a seed by a man. What is the �grain of mustard seed?� It is a �message, the word of God to come�.  To be more explicit, in Luke chapter 8 verse 11 says, that the �seed� represent the �word of God�. It read as follows:

Now the parable is this: The �seed� is the �word of God�. (Luke 8:11)

That would mean the �seed� which is the �word of God� and the �man� is the one who will deliver that message and when it grows and become �a tree��the establishment of God�s laws, God government on earth. The coming of that �message� is the coming of God�s Kingdom on earth as it mentioned in Revelation 12; and the coming of the message mentioned in rev. 14:6-7.

It mentioned:

�And I saw another angel fly in the midst of haven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying with aloud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.� ( http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2014:6-7&version=9 - )

That is the future tense! The book of Revelation Ch. 14: 6-7 which is a part of the Bible (Collection of books), which is already here, it�s mentioned of an �angel coming from heaven� with the everlasting gospel for all nations. The Greek word �Euaggelion� which translate as Gospel, it literal meaning is �Good News�. The NWT got it correct.

6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting GOOD NEWS to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 saying in a loud voice: �FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.� (Rev.14: 6-7 NWT)

THE POWER OF CHRIST

And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron�Now comes Salvation and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and power of his Christ� (Rev. 12:5-10).

It also mentioned there: �Now come�the power of Christ� (Rev. 12:10)

Note: It says �power of Christ�. And not Christ!

What is his power? It is the arrival of the Kingdom of God; and Kingdom of God is also the �rod of iron� it was prophesied by Yesus (Jesus) pbuh.

This is the power of Christ, He said:

�And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken�� (Matt.  21:44)

As I have explained Matthew 21:42-43 that the stone represent the message which is the kingdom of God and it would be taken away from the Jews and given to another nation and that message will bear fruit and be marvelous in our eyes. So, when it mentioned, �whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken�� That would mean no other message would be able to destroy it (the final message/ the Kingdom of God). That is the Power of Christ! He will rule all nations with the rod of iron.

THE ROD OF IRON IS KINGDOM OF GOD

What is the rod of iron? The rod of iron is also the kingdom of God, which is the final message. He will rule them with the final message, the Kingdom of God. The verse continues from Matthew 21: 44

��Whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder� (Matt. 21:44)

That is the rod of iron! In other words, the message will prevail over all other messages, which is the establishment of the true message of Jesus Christ (s) the kingdom of God on earth, Islam. Allah (s) said:

�It is He (God Almighty) who has sent His Messenger [Muhamed (S)] with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) that He may make it prevail over all religions and enough is Allah for a witness.�  (Quran 48:28)

You see that? It shows how the Christian�s commentators does twist the scriptures to fit Yesus (Jesus) pbuh.