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Topic: CAN WE PREFER OUR CHILD SEX?
Posted By: TSontani
Subject: CAN WE PREFER OUR CHILD SEX?
Date Posted: 26 October 2013 at 6:26am

Assalaamu�alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

 

Maybe it's a human nature, never satisfied with what is happening to them. But because of those things, this world became alive and full of dynamics and increasing the breadth of science.

Just imagine the amount of money (maybe worth billions dollars) in circulation worldwide per day and how many thousands of jobs created just for various reasons some people want to lose weight, while some others with various reasons want to raise the weight. Some are trying to make their skin become white, while others traveled far away to tropical countries for sunbathing on the beach so that their skin went black. Some did facial plastic surgery and other body parts to make it look beautiful like an angel, and make other people's astonishment, their biological child profile is much different from the profile of their beautiful mother. And so on ..... so on.

So also our case, a friend who wants a girl, contrary to my desire (Alhamdulillah already accomplished), boys. I got him without spending a relatively high cost, I mean just normal.

30 years ago our first child was born, a girl, of course very fun because the child likes other girls, cute and healthy. But when pay attention to some close friends and one of my elder brother, their child entirely (3) girls, a sense of worry arises. How could I not, we plan to have just 2 children and of course in order to varied, have a son became our target.

Well since then, the search for information and articles on pregnancy and how to get the boy was started, it's not easy, because at that time I did not know yet "the internet".

 

Qur�an Surah-53 (An Najm or The Star),

Verse-45:

"And that He created pairs of men and girls,"

Verse-46:

"Of semen, if emitted."

 

The Qur'an Surah above explain how the human was created, but how can from a same of semen can be created male and female?

According to the articles that I've read and the movies I've watched, sperm or semen turns out aside from the fluid (semen) is also composed of two types of chromosome, the chromosome-X and chromosome-Y are shaped like a tadpole or frog larvae and can only be seen with the help of microscope. 1 cc of sperm or semen has population of millions those two types of chromosomes.

The posture of Chromosome-Y is slim and agile movements, while Chromosome-X fatter and slower movement than Chromosome-Y, but it is relatively more longevity.

As for the inside of the uterus in women who were infertile, usually there is only single egg cell or ovum (can be more in exceptional circumstances) that is placed by Allah Almighty on the wall of the womb (QS 22.5) and only contain chromosome-X.

If the semen is emitted in the direction of the egg cell (as mentioned QS-53, Verses 45 & 46), then only one of the tens of million chromosome-X or Y that's united (marries) with the egg cell.

After "the marriage" happen, then a few tens million less one "chromosome sperm", become bachelor forever till the death come, its pity because no polyandry or polygamy among them.

If the lucky one of "chromosome-X sperm" marries the only one "chromosome-x ovum", then a female fetus will be created. Whereas when "chromosome-x ovum" is married by "chromosome-y sperm", then a male fetus will be created.

From the limited knowledge above, I conclude that Allah Almighty gives us opportunity and hope to have children with sex as we want.

On the advice of another article, more than a year before my wife's contraceptives removed (we plan to have 2 kids with age difference of 4 years), and I am no longer willing to help the wife do the jobs of women and always resolve the family issue without consulting with her, and behave as if my career is on the rise. This is done so "vagina" our wives more permissive to our "chromosome-Y sperm" instead of "X-chromosome sperm". Also in order the population of our "chomosome-Y sperm" become much bigger than the population of "chromosome-X  sperm".

After the contraceptives is released, we make love perfectly normal, but when ejaculation, the sperm is emitted as far as possible from the ovum of our wife, that is at vagina's entrance (sorry). Of course we hope by this way, "chromosome-Y sperm" that much more agile and much larger population than the "chromosome-X sperm" will win the race of "200mm Sprint".

Now after 30 years my wife (almost without me) to take care hard-earned of them, Alhamdulillah our first child (daughter) was graduated as bachelor of Design Communication Visual and a second child (boy) was graduated as bachelor of Economy Management and both have a good career. Now we're busy taking care of our third (bonus) child (daughter), that was born 8 years later after our second child, she just start study in International Business Management.

There is a sense of pride when our efforts and wishes are granted by Him, let alone at least there are 3 colleagues were successful after following the ways that I did, the first two their children are female.

From the above experience I conclude that we're given the opportunity to choose the sex of our child, but their way of life are absolutely prerogative the Creator.

 

Wassalaam.



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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 27 October 2013 at 2:46am
Walecum As Salaam Wa rehmatullahi ea barakhatahu,I disagree with you because Allah says don't alter the physiology of your body in ch 30 v 30, its the will of Allah that matters, okay we may say that I want two or three children but in the end its the will of Allah, because without the will of Allah even a leaf can't fall (ch 6 v 59), moreover Allah says in ch 7 v 189 how a couple pray when a wife is pregnant to have an healthy and pious child, our job is to pray to Allah because Allah totally forbids sex determination I.e preferring one sex over other, in ch 16 v 58-59-Allah strictly gorbids even for making face gloomy on the birth of female child, at last I want to say Allah is the best planner as mentioned in ch 3 v 54 and ch 27 v 50.


Posted By: TSontani
Date Posted: 28 October 2013 at 2:49am

Dear NABA,

 

Allah SWT creates 2 types of chromosome in our sperm, means He gives us a chance to have girl or boy. I knew this chance was almost impossible, but I decided to take this opportunity. With the methode that I wrote, surrendered and praying, finally He bless us to have second child, a boy. Supposing Sayyidina Umar Al Khattab knew about this method (May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala forgive me), of course he would not do as mentioned by QS16.58-59, but everything are already written in "Lauhul Mahfudz".

 

Wassalaam.



Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 28 October 2013 at 11:50pm
But in Quran in ch 31 v 34, Allah says only Allah what's inside the womb, means Allah decides sex of a child, remember Allah in ch 10 v 61 says everything equal to an atom is known to Allah.


Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 02 January 2014 at 11:14pm
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

But in Quran in ch 31 v 34, Allah says only Allah what's inside the womb, means Allah decides sex of a child, remember Allah in ch 10 v 61 says everything equal to an atom is known to Allah.

Salaam Alaikum. Thank you for bringing up 31:34, and my apologies for jumping into the conversation.

It is indeed a very interesting verse.

31:34

Indeed, Allah has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

The verse does not state that only God knows what is in the wombs, but merely that God knows. I don't see how having an ultrasound or even determining the gender of one's baby contradict 31:34.

Some non-Muslims try to bring up this verse to "prove" that the Quran states that only God knows whether a child is female or male. However, the Quran does not say this.

The Muslim site below explains this alleged "error" quite well.
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2008/09/is-there-scientific-error-in-quran-3134.html

For a while I believed that the Quran states that only God knows the gender of the child. After doing some research however, it is obvious to me that it says no such thing.



While it isn't true that the Quran states that only God knows what is in the wombs, it does indeed state that no one knows in what land he will die.

31:34

Indeed, Allah has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.


This is simply not true. A terminally ill person dying in a hospital can be pretty certain what land he or she will die in. The same would be true of a suicide bomber or a prisoner serving life without any chance of parole.

The Quran's author did not consider this, because like all other fallible writers, he made mistakes. This is more evidence that as intelligent and well versed as he was, the Quran's author could not have been Allah.


Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 06 January 2014 at 7:50am
But it is Allah who decides whether the person will get ill or not, remember we can't predict what will happen even in next sec, if Allah want I might die win few moments, u r talking about eg u stated u will not believd exactly 2 n a half yrs ago even I know the date 25.5.11, 18 yr old boy was suffering from kidney failure, and all hopes were gone, but their relatives decided that they will shift him to a better hospital thru air ambulance, and guess what??? The plane crashed, the patient along with 4 other healthy beings also died, so did the other 4 thought that they will die, eg did paul walker thought he will die on 30.11.13? ????? Few hrs b4 his death he was doing charity shooting for his film, but death occured, therefore these are all signs of Allah that death will cum only according to will of Allah, but thru our prayers Allah may increase our span, eg Allah says in ch 37 v 143-144if prophet Jonah (pbuh) wud not have prayed to Allah from belly of whale Allah wud have kept him in belly till jjudgement day.Allah says pray ro me so that I shall answer u (ch 40 v 60).


Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 5:48pm
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

But it is Allah who decides whether the person will get ill or not, remember we can't predict what will happen even in next sec, if Allah want I might die win few moments, u r talking about eg u stated u will not believd exactly 2 n a half yrs ago even I know the date 25.5.11, 18 yr old boy was suffering from kidney failure, and all hopes were gone, but their relatives decided that they will shift him to a better hospital thru air ambulance, and guess what??? The plane crashed, the patient along with 4 other healthy beings also died, so did the other 4 thought that they will die, eg did paul walker thought he will die on 30.11.13? ????? Few hrs b4 his death he was doing charity shooting for his film, but death occured, therefore these are all signs of Allah that death will cum only according to will of Allah, but thru our prayers Allah may increase our span, eg Allah says in ch 37 v 143-144if prophet Jonah (pbuh) wud not have prayed to Allah from belly of whale Allah wud have kept him in belly till jjudgement day.Allah says pray ro me so that I shall answer u (ch 40 v 60).

I agree with everything you wrote here, only God knows for certain when and where we will die. However, that does not change the fact that some people knew where they were going to die, and the Quran verse states that no soul knows that.

Hitler knew that he and his wife Eva Braun would die in the bunker, and he proved himself to be correct by shooting himself.


Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 10:34pm
Hitler does it but it was only Allah who know that bcoz Allah had created us and he knows us more than ourselves, Allah had described this fact with a parable that Allah is more closer to man than his own jugular vein ch 50 v 16.


Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 5:16am
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

Hitler does it but it was only Allah who know that bcoz Allah had created us and he knows us more than ourselves, Allah had described this fact with a parable that Allah is more closer to man than his own jugular vein ch 50 v 16.

I agree that God is closer to man than his own jugular vein.

I disagree that only God knew where Hitler will die. Hitler didn't know for the vast majority of his wasted and evil life, but as it was coming to an end, he did plan to commit suicide in his bunker and did indeed kill himself in it. Hitler did know he was going to die in the bunker, and he did.


Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 10:26pm
Allah know that because Allah says in Quran in ch 57 v 4 he is always withus, it was plan of Allah how hitler wud die, bcoz Allah is the best planner (ch 3 v 54, ch 27 v 50).


Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 4:11am
Originally posted by NABA NABA wrote:

Allah know that because Allah says in Quran in ch 57 v 4 he is always withus, it was plan of Allah how hitler wud die, bcoz Allah is the best planner (ch 3 v 54, ch 27 v 50).

I completely agree with this. Allah knew how and where Hitler will die. But in the last few days of his life, Hitler knew that too.


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 12:20pm
...not for sure! People can plan or think that they will kill themselves as in Hitler's case when things turn against them, but not all succeed. Many people try to kill themselves daily, many do succeed and many do not.
When I sit in front of my lunch to eat, I know I will eat it, and that is not the issue. Allah says, He do let us know as much as He want. "..and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills."2:225
Hasan

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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62



Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:

...not for sure! People can plan or think that they will kill themselves as in Hitler's case when things turn against them, but not all succeed. Many people try to kill themselves daily, many do succeed and many do not. 

True, but those who succeed (like Hitler) and choose a place, have successfully perceived where they will die.

Originally posted by honeto honeto wrote:


When I sit in front of my lunch to eat, I know I will eat it, and that is not the issue. Allah says, He do let us know as much as He want. "..and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills."2:225
Hasan

This is true, but it doesn't change the fact that some people (like Hitler) have indeed perceived where they will die. Another example would be one of his cronies, Joseph Goebbels, who killed his children with cyanide and then committed suicide with his wife in the courtyard and ordered the SS to bury their bodies.

Both of these mass murdering psychopaths knew where they would breathe in the last bit of oxygen on the planet they helped destroy and ravish.

If we want a less extreme example, consider ex-bassist Mikey Welsh, who predicted he will die in Chicago in two weeks. He had a dream he will die there of a heart attack in his sleep, and decided to write a will. Two weeks, later, he died in a hotel in Chicago. Cause of death was not determined, though he was known to be a heavy drug user.

He may have predicted his cause of death wrongly, but he was right about where he will die.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2011/10/weezer-bassist-predicted-his-death-on-twitter/

Yet according to the author of the Quran, no soul perceives where he or she will die.


Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 8:04pm
This is yet another example of people simply grasping for straws.  By looking at the context of the verse in question, it can be seen that the claim that there is some "error" that no one in 1400 years has bothered to point out (until now) is laughably absurd:

"Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted."

This verse is referring to knowledge of the future, which no person knows, unless of course Allah (swt) revealed it to that person, as in the case of the prophets.  Ask any person whether they will die tomorrow, and they will say "I don't know".  Even a terminally-ill person, who is on his death-bed, will not know exactly at what moment he will die.  It could be now, or in the next 5 minutes, or in the next 5 days etc. 

If a person had intended to commit suicide at some point, obviously he/she knows that he/she will die if the attempt is successful.  But can they say with 100% certainty that they will certainly succeed in their suicide attempt or even go forward with it?  The answer is no.  Say this person intended to commit suicide tomorrow, will they know for sure today that they will not change their mind tomorrow or if they will be successful if they decide to go ahead with the attempt?  Did Hitler know the day before he committed suicide that he was going to commit suicide the next day?  The answer is no.  No one can know for sure.  That is the point of this verse.  To argue that there is some "error" is therefore just a polemical attempt at finding an error, any error, even when there is none.  You might as well also argue that once the person dies, he/she will "perceive" in the next life that he/she has died and hence there is an "error" in the verse!  Of course, such a thought would be laughable.  Obviously, at the moment of our death (if it is not sudden), we know that we are dying and that our time has come.  That is not a revolutionary idea.


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Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)



Posted By: TG12345
Date Posted: 10 January 2014 at 5:37am
Originally posted by islamispeace islamispeace wrote:

This is yet another example of people simply grasping for straws.  By looking at the context of the verse in question, it can be seen that the claim that there is some "error" that no one in 1400 years has bothered to point out (until now) is laughably absurd:

"Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted."

This verse is referring to knowledge of the future, which no person knows, unless of course Allah (swt) revealed it to that person, as in the case of the prophets.  Ask any person whether they will die tomorrow, and they will say "I don't know".  Even a terminally-ill person, who is on his death-bed, will not know exactly at what moment he will die.  It could be now, or in the next 5 minutes, or in the next 5 days etc. 

If a person had intended to commit suicide at some point, obviously he/she knows that he/she will die if the attempt is successful.  But can they say with 100% certainty that they will certainly succeed in their suicide attempt or even go forward with it?  The answer is no.  Say this person intended to commit suicide tomorrow, will they know for sure today that they will not change their mind tomorrow or if they will be successful if they decide to go ahead with the attempt?  Did Hitler know the day before he committed suicide that he was going to commit suicide the next day?  The answer is no.  No one can know for sure.  That is the point of this verse.  To argue that there is some "error" is therefore just a polemical attempt at finding an error, any error, even when there is none.  You might as well also argue that once the person dies, he/she will "perceive" in the next life that he/she has died and hence there is an "error" in the verse!  Of course, such a thought would be laughable.  Obviously, at the moment of our death (if it is not sudden), we know that we are dying and that our time has come.  That is not a revolutionary idea.

Salaam Alaikum.

I am not disputing the part of the verse that you bolded and underlined, so why you are bringing it up I have no idea. I agree that no one knows what will happen tomorrow, and have never claimed it is mistaken. True, only God knows what will happen tomorrow.

"Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted."

I disagree with the part that is in red. See the 5th post in this thread.


A person intending to commit suicide who fails or changes his/her mind (and thanks be to God, most do) does not know when or where they will die, but a person who goes on with the plan and carries it out will have done so with the knowledge where and when... not because they can see the future like God can, but because they planned to do such a tragic thing.

That is besides the point, though, as it is true that no one knows what will happen tomorrow, or even in the next 5 minutes. You are correct, a terminally ill person on his or her death bed does not know whether they will pass away tomorrow or today or in the next few minutes or seconds. That is the matter of "when".

However, knowing the place of one's death is something else. Some people can have such knowledge due to the circumstances they are in. A prisoner doing life who states "I will die in prison" is in the greatest likelihood correct. So is a terminally ill patient who predicts they will die in the hospital. Neither of them can tell you when they will die, but both can tell you where.

To respond to some of your other points,

To argue that there is some "error" is therefore just a polemical attempt at finding an error, any error, even when there is none.  You might as well also argue that once the person dies, he/she will "perceive" in the next life that he/she has died and hence there is an "error" in the verse!  Of course, such a thought would be laughable.  Obviously, at the moment of our death (if it is not sudden), we know that we are dying and that our time has come.  That is not a revolutionary idea.

The part you underlined will not be applicable since the verse says

"Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted."

A dead person has died already, this verse is a reference to people who have not died yet.


Again, I am not disputing the part of the verse that states that no one knows what will happen tomorrow. I do not dispute with you that we do not know when we will die unless we are in the process of dying already.

I dispute the statement that no person knows where they will die. Some people are in circumstances that make it impossible for them not to know where- not when- they will die.



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