Jenni wrote: P.S> Many muslims sadly are prejudiced against black people even though it is unislamic. I think they care less about the suffering in Africa than Palestine or Iraq because they care more about Arabs than Africans. This prejudice is widespread and I have had 3 friends who when were looking for husbands were told by thier parents in no uncertian terms do not marry an African Muslim. One friend who was Palistinian was told she would be disowned if she married a Somali she was talking with. Sorry to say, that Muslims do not care enough for thier brothers and sisters in Africa. And to add the suffering of many non muslim women and children who are suffering poverty and disease in Africa that we should be helping too!!!

with views like that Islam has a very long way to go in Africa..as the face of religious propagation has changed completely in the last 2 decades

I believe another reason why Islam is failing in Africa is because of the treatment of non-Muslims by Muslim states especially in Sudan, and Northern Nigeria. Most Africans appreciate and want to live by Western norms of morality, and ethics, human rights, and democracy as defined by the West, not Islam. Most Africans see the enforcement of Shari'a and don't like it. While they have alternatives like Xtianity which is fundamentally more individualistic and more peaceful and is now the fastest growing religion due to the fact imo that is states in much stronger terms then any other religion peace, tolerance, and love. Things that Africa has lacked for the past 50 years, and looking at Muslim states in the continent it is not something to emulate. 

How do you 'trick' people by being 'humane and loving?'
Like faking interest say in Iraq and Iraqi deaths while being utter idiotic racists.

Whisper wrote: How do you 'trick' people by being 'humane and loving?' Like faking interest say in Iraq and Iraqi deaths while being utter idiotic racists.

Tricking people is a can do, If you're pretty good at acting.....  People can lie can't they?, deception anyone ??....

There are such a variety of situations in Africa. People want to feel like they are loved. Two aspects that stand out:

In Christianity one is taught that God loves you. That if you believe then you will be saved. People in desperate situations need hope. God is there for the downtrodden and oppressed. People in desperate situations need hope, this is a powerful message� As its been brought up the people on Africa have been forsaken by others. war, colonialism, neo-colonialism have exacted a terrible price upon people there. 

Another aspect is that in Christianity Jesus lived and worked his life to help the poor, the downtrodden, the suffering. That is a strong message the Jesus came for them. I know it is one strain of Catholicism � liberation theology. It is hugely strong in Latin and Central America.  This is also part of other branches of Christianity.  The belief is that to serve God is to serve the poor. Jesus (and many other prophets actually) lived simple, basic lives. They did not hoard the wealth. There is a message that there should and will be justice.

In aspects of Christianity, there is a strong sense of activism-to help others. That is one area that is harder to find in Islam, or it is more hidden. Are there people fighting for the truly poor, the environment and the earth-those who cannot speak for themselves?  I find that many Moslems are more concerned with arguing over what is Islamically �correct� then with fixing things in the world. Maybe it is just the �vocal� people and there are many hidden people out there doing things.

But really what does Allah want us to do? What is our greater purpose here? I could spend millions on a beautiful building to live in or feed people or help them get on their feet. What is the greater here? What is my role here as others suffer?

There are great people from all over doing things to help people. No religion has a monopoly but that many Moslems and others have lost their way. (in my humble opinion.) I guess my upbringing will not completely leave me.. actions speak louder then words. Will Allah ask those living a very wealthy lifestyle how they did it while others suffered so greatly? Maybe so�

Plus Islam seems to put a lot into �fate�. It is my fate to be poor. So there is no sense of justice in their lives. A long, great after-life is great but is there any sense that life is worth living? That there should be help for me and my children? There is a sense that Jesus came to fight for me. Not a war in a conventional sense but my right to live decently and to in a humane environment.

Those are a few of my thoughts.... I am only writing of a few perceptions. Not any official doctrine by a religious official.

And no mention of Saddam - amazing - or the Taliban - stunning. 

I need not follow up any of your cheap shots, but for your information they are all history now and we are concerned only with the current death cultists.

Thanks

The day you hit the truth by some chance your nation will be absolutely safe. Right now it's just the oil and the dollars that matter to the upstarts of the world.

Good bye, I have better things to do than feed your need for attention.