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Hi Rami,

All I have said is based on what has been said by others, who were by all accounts contemporaries of Mohammed and subsequent followers of his "guidances" and 'revelations from Jibreel.

I did not invent this information.........my opinions are based on this authenticated and approved information.

Would you also ban the ahadith?

Is it not the ahadith that you rely upon for your source of the "good" things about Mohammed?

Are you suggesting that one should only accept the "good" hadith?

It is reported by the contemporaries of Mohammed, that he too "banned" people in his own way from saying anything "bad" about him, for example.......sahih al-Bukari

كتاب الرهن (The Book of Mortgaging)

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No. 2349	- Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
	Allah's Apostle said, "Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as he has harmed Allah and His Apostle ?" Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, "I will kill him." So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, "I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of food grains." Ka'b said, "Mortgage your women to me." Muhammad bin Maslama said, "How can we mortgage our women, and you are the most handsome among the Arabs?" He said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." Muhammad said, "How can we mortgage our sons, as the people will abuse them for being mortgaged for one or two Wasqs of food grains? It is shameful for us. But we will mortgage our arms to you." So, Muhammad bin Maslama promised him that he would come to him next time. They (Muhammad bin Maslama and his companions came to him as promised and murdered him. Then they went to the Prophet and told him about it.

كتاب (The Book of Penalty of Hunting While on Pilgrimage)

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No. 1734	- Narrated Anas bin Malik:
	Allah's Apostle entered Mecca in the year of its Conquest wearing an Arabian helmet on his head and when the Prophet took it off, a person came and said, "Ibn Khatal is holding the covering of the Ka'ba (taking refuge in the Ka'ba)." The Prophet said, "kill him."

Rami,
I have no doubt that Mohammed did some good things and good things were said about him, but there is no doubting that the records of his life written by his contemporaries and followers clearly claim that he was a murderer, was complicent or incited murder, he condoned lying, he condoned torture, he condoned adultery, he condoned theft and looting of other's property, he condoned enslavement of fellow man, he condoned and indulged in sex with un-consenting minors and defenceless female captives of war, he condoned and ordered the dis-membering of limbs and stoning to death of fellow humans..............I did not make these "bad" things up Rami..........they may be abhorrant to you, they are to me too, but this is what the records show.

Rami, I urge you to read this (follows this paragraph) and get your head around the illogical aspects of this apologetic stance......as you may well accept the stories of God, you also must accept what comes with the story, that which comes as part of the package.......the "good" and the "bad".........with the stories of God, come also the story of Shayten...........now how come God does not "ban" Shayten and be done with it?

Read and think!.......the key to it all is the "circular reasoning".

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