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Ron Webb ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Male atheist Joined: 30 January 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Status: Offline Points: 2467 |
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Ally, let me hazard a guess that you are ("ur") quite young. To paraphrase George Bernard Shaw: youth is a wonderful thing, but what a pity to waste it on the young. Please, listen to the voice of experience -- not my voice (as I said, why should you believe me?), but the voice of whatever experienced person you trust. Your parents, your teachers, your clergy, whoever you like. I'm confident that they will all say what I am saying -- not because there is some evil geriatric conspiracy, but because life does teach some important lessons. If you're lucky enough to live that long, you will learn them too. You say that people should not judge your character by your appearance. I have two answers to that. First of all, can you honestly say that you don't judge people that way yourself? Are you attracted to others (or not) by the way they look? Don't you pay careful attention to your own appearance, precisely to create an image that conveys your character? Don't you expect others to notice and respond accordingly? My second response is that even if they shouldn't judge you that way, the fact is that they will. You can accept that reality and deal with it, or you can ignore it at your peril. Show up at a job interview with torn clothes, or uncombed hair, or a nose piercing -- then assure them that your appearance does not reflect your character, and see how far that gets you. |
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ally ![]() Starter ![]() Joined: 05 April 2008 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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can i say one thing...
its just a piercing and if u would like to get it done and ur parents allow that then do it. because it doesnt define who you are as a person. nothing as superficial as that does and those who judge your character on how you look have very very poor judgement indeed.
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Ron Webb ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Male atheist Joined: 30 January 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Status: Offline Points: 2467 |
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Sana, I am not a Muslim so I won't say anything about religion. Anyway, this isn't really about religion, is it? Like any other fashion choice, this is about how others see you, what they will think of you, and the kind of friends you want to have. If you pierce your nose, you know that certain kinds of people will find you more attractive and will admire you more (if only for your courage); and other kinds of people will find your piercing repulsive and will question your character. I'm sorry if you think the latter is unfair, but it is a fact. By choosing to pierce your nose, you are choosing to identify yourself with the kind of people who pierce their nose. Others know this, and they will judge you accordingly. It may be that the nose-pierced crowd would be more fun to hang around with right now, in your teens; but ask yourself: whose respect and admiration would you rather have in the long run? Sure, you can remove the piercing when you are an adult, but it isn't that simple. The kinds of friends you make now, the experiences you share with them, the habits and attitudes you learn, the way they talk, all these things will become part of you. They cannot be removed as easily as the nose ring, and they will influence the rest of your life. I hope you will talk to your parents about this, not just "ask permission". And I hope you will listen, really listen, to what they have to say. You don't know me and there is no reason you should believe what I say, but I hope you will believe them. Experience really is a valuable teacher. |
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ally ![]() Starter ![]() Joined: 05 April 2008 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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devil slayer can i just say i agree with what you said about tattoos but not about nose piercing..
i have my nose pierced and several ear piercings and they didnt hurt... people have different pain thresholds but most people can tolerate the pain of a piercing...
also how is it dirty for the nose and how does it keep stuff in the nose??? |
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devil-slayer ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 February 2007 Location: Egypt Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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to manue ::: tatoos are wrong anywhere even if you use it on eye lines ... its wrong god forbid it with no question at all and he damnd all people with tatoos no deference between woman and man .. doesnt matter where it is put .. so i`m sorry i`m sure you really wanted that tatoo i was tempted to have one even though i knew it was wrong but i stoped myself
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Manue_Muslim ![]() Starter ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 April 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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What about tatoos? are tatoo aloud? I asked my friend, but her answer was too complicated. She said i was aloud only on my back.
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devil-slayer ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 February 2007 Location: Egypt Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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sana look to help you cause this guy talks alot lool sorry no offence meant at all.... its not 7aram nor forbiden but its (( makroh )) ( hated ) because its has been known for canibals to wear pierces in their nose and its also gonna hurt alot believe me my friend had it befor she actually said (( i`de rather be in hell )) hahahaha |
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seekshidayath ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Female Islam Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Status: Offline Points: 3357 |
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As'salamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu, Sana pls go thru this fatwa and it may clear your doubt With regard to piercing the ears of females, there is a difference of scholarly opinion on the ruling. The Hanafis and Hanbalis are of the view that this is permissible. The Shaafa�is are of the view that it is not allowed, and Ibn al-Jawzi and Ibn �Aqeel, who were Hanbalis, agreed with them. They did not quote any texts as evidence that it is not allowed, rather they said that it causes pain, and that wearing adornment in the ear is not essential, and is not so important as to allow causing pain to the female for this purpose. The one who studies the texts of the Prophet�s Sunnah and the lives of the female Sahabaah (may Allaah be pleased with them) will see that the more correct view is the former, which is that it is permissible. The texts which indicate that include the following: 1 � It was narrated that Ibn �Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came out and prayed, then he delivered a khutbah � and he did not mention any adhaan or iqaamah � then he went to the women and exhorted and reminded them, and told them to give charity, and I saw them taking off their earrings and necklaces and giving them to Bilaal, then he and Bilaal went back to his house. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (4951) and Muslim (884). According to another report narrated by them both: They started throwing their earrings and necklaces. 2 � It was narrated that �Aa�ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: Eleven women sat and promised one another that they would not conceal anything about their husbands � the eleventh one said: My husband is Abu Zar� and what (can I say about) Abu Zar�? He has given me many ornaments and my ears are heavily loaded with them. � �Aa�ishah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: I am to you as Abu Zar� was to Umm Zar�. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (4893) and Muslim (2448). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) approved of what Abu Zar� did by filling the ears of Umm Zar� with jewellery until they became heavy. With regard to piercing the ears at the top, it seems that it makes no difference whether they are pierced at the bottom or at the top, depending on whether this is customary in a woman�s environment. We should note that it is not permissible for a woman to show the jewellery that she is wearing on her hand, ear or neck. Shaykh Muhammad al-Saalih al-�Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about piercing a girls� nose or ear for the sake of beautification. He replied: The correct view is that there is nothing wrong with piercing the ear, because one of the aims that is achieved by that is wearing permissible jewellery. It is known that the women of the Sahaabah had earrings that they wore in their ears. The pain is light, and if the piercing is done when the girl is small, it heals quickly. With regard to piercing the nose, I do not remember that the scholars said anything about it, but it is a kind of mutilation and deforming of the appearance as we see it, but perhaps others do not see it that way. If a woman is in a country where putting jewellery in the nose is seen as a kind of adornment and beautification, there is nothing wrong with piercing the nose. Majmoo� Fataawa Ibn �Uthaymeen (11/ question no. 69). Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said: There is nothing wrong with piercing the ears of a girl in order to put jewellery in her ears. This is still done by many people, and even at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) women used to wear jewellery in their ears and elsewhere without being rebuked for it. With regard to it hurting the girl, the purpose of it is in her interests, because she needs jewellery, and to adorn herself. Piercing the ears serves a permissible purpose and is allowed because of need. Just as it is permissible to carry out surgery and cauterize her if that is needed on medical grounds, it is also permissible to pierce her ear in order to put jewellery in it, because it is something that she needs, and it is something that does not hurt very much, and does not have a great effect on her. Fataawa al-Shaykh al-Fawzaan (3/324). And Allaah knows best. |
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