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herjihad
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Salaams and Bismillah, Dear Brother Sign*Reader, Jazzak Allah Khayr, and I was extremely glad to read your measured and thoughtful repsonse to Canned. In Shah Allah, he will think about each thing you said and rethink his position. We all need to allow ourselves room to grow as humans and Muslims. And on this issue, we all have sisters and children and mothers and nieces and aunts. Nobody should have metaphors applied to them like this misguided brother in Austrailia has applied to all uncovered women, which broadly included all women who uncover their hair. This kind of attitude reminds us of the Israelis who hate all Arabs such as Lieberman. It's just hate talk. It's nothing new, and we need to strive to work together, help each other, and forgive each other. All of us. Edited by herjihad |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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peacemaker
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Assalamu Alaikum, The Sheikh has realized his mistake, and apologized. Therefore, he should not be subjected to ongoing media onslaught. The disproportionate negative media coverage about him gives the impression to the rest of the world that that is what Islam and Muslims stand for. Yes, I would be against him until he apologizes, but as soon as he does realize the mistake, I would treat him as my Brother in Islam. And this concept of mercy and compassion in Islam extends to everyone in humanity. And in these times when media selectively magnifies news to project Islam and Muslms in negative light, we should understand the direction of the wind, and take appropriate and unified position to safeguard the interest of us all. Peace |
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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
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candid
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Liberman is notable for his racist views. There is nothing to suggest that Imam holds racist view, therefore the comparision is wrong. Imam didn't say anything wrong, inititially but he should have anticipated the reaction of the people to what he said. Edited by candid |
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candid
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I meant 'we' as Muslims. My post was to Angel who is a non-muslim. Irrespective of what we believe our values are, we should not decide on our values just to please the non-muslims. There can be differences amongst Muslims I accept (and I am not always right, I admit) but the differences had to be resolved irrespective of what the non-muslims tell us to do. The rest of your post is irrelevant (its centred around me, really can't understand what happened to forum rule of 'no personal attacks').
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herjihad
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Salaams and Bismillah, Some guys will never understand the evil that they do to women. Jazzak Allah Khayr to Brother Sign*Reader again. I take what the sheikh and people here who don't understand this issue at all, personally. Cann DID, you refuse to think about what the Brother said to you. That's up to you. I recommend your canning of posting priviledges to the adminstrator, who seems to agree with you, because of your senseless verbal attacks on all women. Read what we have discussed on this topic before. None of the sisters in that discussion agree with you. I reiterate this because it is important for anyone reading this to know that your cruel and unwise views on innocents attacked by others harms all of us. The sheikh apologized? That's nice. He should be fired as the leaders of the Islamic organizations in Austrailia have themselves recommended. A person with such a high position should show better sense in his public speeches. And that metaphor, I've heard it before; haven't you? He didn't make it up. And it's sad that noone is willing to admit to that in our community. Brothers need to protect the sisters instead of using us as bait or for target practice. IstagfirrAllah. |
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candid
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Chaste women don't have anything to fear. And, where did I attack 'all women'? I only oppose the right of shameless women to dress indecently. Edited by candid |
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candid
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How does that harms you? What you think harms you just because of that will harm you anyway. Because what I said cannot harm you.
His first mistake was that he did not anticipate the reaction of what he said. His second mistake was that he apologised. Edited by candid |
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candid
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Okay, I admit I used harsh language. That is because I don't like Angel's attitude here. This is an Islamic forum. I don't like non-muslims to question Islam or Muslims here. I don't think that is unfair because no one is preventing non-muslims from doing that in their own forum or some other forum of their choice. Muslims come here to discuss their religious issues. Muslims don't come here to be insulted or provoked. Non-Muslims are welcome here if they come here to learn about Islam or meaningfully discuss about Islamic issues as Duende and Angela do. That does not mean that they have to agree to everything what Muslims say; but, atleast they can be silent if they can't help provoking or insulting us. If they disagree with us they should not insult us. |
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