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Suleyman
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Sure Duende,you are right,no doubt...but i should remind you that you can't expect everyhing from every people,i just want to use the message of Bob for calling them to Islam,Bob(used to,so sad) and his followers has an great potential carrying their cells to entering to Islam with the message of Bob because they really love Bob and some part of his messages are really good fitting to Islam Soul,i am not supporting Rasta and it's stupid living style...all i imagine is on Bob's message for them....I have a Rasta friend from Chicago who goes to university,first we discussed on Bob and now she reads the four basics terms of Qur'an by Maulana Maududi,alhamdulilah when i appear on the msn she says as salam or alhamdulilah... Same on me,i was also an university student when i listened Bob and my life was damned,no pray no ghusl and no knowledge inside my life i was really suffering then Bob appeared with his songs moved me to God then i found my way... |
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Duende
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Okay Suleyman, I know Bob Marley was a powerfull figure for uniting
Black people everywhere, but he was not a figure in Islam, am I wrong? Rastafarianism, although it holds some admirable tenets, has nothing to do with Islam. They believe the old King of Ethiopia, Haile Salassi (the lion of Africa) was actually a god. |
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Suleyman
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Long story Dear Duende,long story....
Africa, Unite 'Cause we're moving right out of Babylon And we're going to our father's land How good and how pleasant it would be Before God and man, yeah To see the unification of all Africans, yeah As it's been said already let it be done, yeah We are the children of the Rastaman We are the children of the Higher Man So Africa, Unite 'cause the children wanna come home Africa, Unite 'cause we're moving right out of Babylon And we're grooving to our father's land How good and how pleasant it would be Before God and Man To see the unification of all Rastaman, yeah As it's been said already let it be done I tell you who we are under the sun We are the children of the Rastaman We are the children of the Higher Man So, Africa, Unite, Africa, Unite Unite for the benefit of your people Unite for it's later than you think Unite for the benefit of your children Unite for it's later than you think Africa awaits its creators, Africa awaiting its creators Africa, you're my forefather cornerstone Unite for the Africans abroad, unite for the Africans a yard Africa, Unite Edited by Suleyman |
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Duende
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Hanan: Is this really the �African approach to Islam?� I�am deeply hurt
by�being labeled a racist. I�CAN NOT be�a racist, believe me. I did not intend to be nasty about UmmAmara�s approach to Islam, I simply do not believe certain things" I reckon you have as good a nose as Whisper on such things and I defer to your intuition. I did not mean to label you a racist, nevertheless, I think it's unwise to proclaim oneself incapable of such a thing. Unfortunately we are all capable, you only have to look at situations such as the Tutsi/Hutu slaughters, and the current situation in parts of Sudan. And I'm thinking also of our aquaintance, the ineffable Mighty Foi, who is engaged in some kind of revenge racism. A natural reaction, (I guess they feel), from African Americans after so many years of being subjected to it. (There's always an excuse for racist attitudes.) It seems to me Islam is absorbed into different cultures along with the cultural baggage of that culture, resulting in variations on a theme which are sometimes shocking, to those whose understanding of Islam is different. Who is to say how one should believe? Is islam as understood in Saudi Arabia better, more Moslem, than the Islam practised in Iran, Turkey, or a South London suburb? Each one of us has a unique, personal interpretation of our beliefs which doesn't confer the right to judge another's. I wasn't sure what Suleyman was getting at, he has very generously bestowed me with some wisdom I seem to have ignored! But I question the use of a Rastafarian's song to explain the impact of Islam on Africa .... ? |
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Hanan
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Suleyman
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Dear Duende,
The issue is out of the language skills neither being an distinct African nor on about her talking style...the issue is behind the scenes as an wise sister of you,you should have been realized, i believe now your heart has realized... Uganda....Africa...poor life...lost hopes...abuses,lies...killings...starvings...being forgotten...paganism...disrespect...lost human rights...Islam...One Hope....the one they found at their ends...the one value they now have in their whole life...the one way to escape...the first smile came after the cry of so many years...and now loudly speaks...take it back!....take it back!...take these words back!... Seems like an mother cry while loosing her baby!...Islam is her baby and please let her being untouched by words...she has no obligation on being polite to Pope who the one has the obligation on being polite to this world... She closed her eyes to the world except Islam,because we are the African People who closed the file in this world only hoping from Allah...we are The African People saw the end of this world while you were not there,please forgive our voices coming up to you rude,please forgive us we are The African People coming in from the cold...please forgive us we were unable to read books and having our educations on science and sociology...we are coming in from the cold entering first steps to the happy days...please know that after these sincere rude voices our children will learn to move with wisdom and knowledge but please do not wait from us while trying to appear in the darkness.... BOB MARLEY EXODUS/MOVING TO THE FATHERLAND=AFRICA Exodus, movement of Jah people, oh yeah Edited by Suleyman |
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Duende
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Suleyman I agree akmf's remarks are way out of line.
Akmf, that was a cheap shot, you don't have to insult this forum member in this racist way. UmmAmara seems to have a unique way of using English which I also had a problem with at first, I'm a bit more tuned in to her flow now. She has a 'sassy' voice, but she's young, and that's her style. She also has a distinct African kind of approach to Islam I think none of us here have been able to appreciate and some Brothers and Sisters are being nasty about that. I am ashamed to see such blatant racism and uncalled for attacks. |
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Suleyman
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Dear Moderators,please lock this thread bcs something is going very bad if you look insight...Subhan'Allah... Akfm,you are no longer brother of me...so sad.. |
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