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jacques4173
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I'm going to have to say no, I don't agree with you on events not happening or Bible being altered. Not Yet anyway. I myself need to do more research, however Jesus is separate from the Holy Spirit. Jesus was a prophet yes! The Holy Spirit of course is in the spirit realm, he is the teacher, the comforter and more. Matthew was here before Jesus. God does call several of his prophets his son's and daughters, however Jesus is the only ONE he called into existence through a virgin woman (Mary). This is why the Bible says he (God) gave his Only Begotten Son. I've noticed on here a lot that people try to reference scriptures from the Bible and they aren't reading scriptures in their entirety and they are unaware of who is speaking at the time. When I see scriptures referenced on here I look in my Bible and then I'm like "what are they talking about" that's not what the Bible says, or that's not who Jesus or God was talking too?? I'm not saying it's impossible that information could not have been altered in the Bible, but right now, I don't believe so. God said I am the Lord and I change Not, nor does his word. Which is supposed to be the same with the Quaran right? Also the Bible does not reference anyone else coming after Jesus. It only references Jesus coming back for his people so I don't understand where the Quaran or Muslim religion came from. I would think it would have been referenced in our Bible??? Enlighten me I guess.
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Hanan
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jacques4173
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Christians do not beleive that Jesus is God, and also Jesus was crucified and hung on the cross and died for our sins that we might all be saved. The reason that Christians call Jesus the Son of God is because he was born of a virgin (Mary)conceived by the Holy Spirit. In the Bible this is in Matthew 1:18-24. Also look in Matthew 3:16-17, after Jesus is baptized God said" This is my beloved son and I am fully pleased with him"
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Shery
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very true hannan and also there s a very important verses says ( surah ISRA ) verses 42 �� �� ��� ��� ���� ��� ������ ��� ������� ��� �� ����� ����� 42. Say: If there had been (other) gods with Him, as they say,- behold, they would certainly have sought out a way to the Lord of the Throne!
and there s also a verses to whom argue about prophet mohamed and when we say that he married Sayeda ( Aisha ) at this age because it was the normal at this time
SO the disbelievers says : prophet mohamed is a prophet he should nt do what the other people do ( though all prophet who came before prophet mohamed just did what everyone do from their people ) Verses 95to 97 surah ISRA 94. What kept men back from belief when Guidance came to them, was nothing but this: they said, "Has Allah sent a man (like us) to be (His) Messenger." 95. Say, "If there were settled, on earth, angels walking about in peace and quiet, We should certainly have sent them down from the heavens an angel for an apostle." 96. Say: "Enough is Allah for a witness between me and you: for He is well acquainted with His servants, and He sees (all things). 97. It is he whom Allah guides, that is on true Guidance; but he whom He leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him. On the Day of Judgment We shall gather, them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf: their abode will be Hell: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase from them the fierceness of the Fire.
So I m sorry to get off topic But its irritate me when I read what they write about prophet mohamed and because they are brainless they didnt understand that the wisdom of allah to send any prophet is to chose him from the people themselves so he would live with them eat at them and do everything they do but to guide them to righteous ... and SUrah In nisaa ( woman ) says in verses 165 165. Messenger. who gave good news as well as warning, that mankind, after (the coming) of the apostles, should have no plea against Allah. For Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
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Hanan
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Shery
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I always wondered why it says that the one who read ( Surah EL kahef ) ( cave ) would be save from the antichrist) massiekh el dagal sedition I read it several times ,, till i found the answers in the first verses 4. Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "(Allah) hath begotten a son": 5. No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood! So why Allah chose Surah el kahef to prevent us from the sedition of messiakh el dagal ... because it tells us that the sedition is that tells that god has no son and he is not one and HE is sharing HIS kingdom with a son and wife !
While theres a very important Surah we shall all bear it on our minds Surah 112. The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah 1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; 2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; 4. And there is none like unto Him.
So now we can see it very obviously who is our real enemy The people who believe in this man who been crusified ( they believe in a human to be god ) cuz jesus was never been crusified and even if he was ( and he never been ) but even if he was he is not god and either they worshiped jesus or this man who been crusified so they did chose the wrong way and gate Cuz jesus himself wouldnt be able to help anyone unless that god allow him ... Surah el Ma'ada (Surah 5. The Table, The Table Spread)
116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. 117. "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. 118. "If Thou dost punish them, they are Thy servant: If Thou dost forgive them, Thou art the Exalted in power, the Wise." 119. Allah will say: "This is a day on which the truthful will profit from their truth: theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,- their eternal Home: Allah well-pleased with them, and they with Allah. That is the great salvation, (the fulfilment of all desires). 120. To Allah doth belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is therein, and it is He Who hath power over all things.
So the last remarks that popes have said about muslims is just what they really believe and what they hide in their hearts is much worse for us Every single muslim should be aware its a war about ISLAM the Crusaders have claimed from a long time ( since salah el dine ) and when they did renew their power and did unify together they are again trying to erase islam from the earth ( this is their dream ) that will never inshallah come true . |
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Shery
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resignation is so good when we will never get to a point together ...
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ejdavid
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To Whom It May Concern
I hereby resign from this forum thread. I was not as respectfull as I should have been, and appologize. Sometimes my emotions get the better of me. My best regards to all the participants. |
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