None Believer interprets the Quran

fogtrik wrote: <The Arabs were good with maths. Muhammad could have conceptualised a number like 14 billion. God could have told him 14B, he could have understood. This alone is proof that god never talked to a man, yet muslims twist this to say god�s time is different than our time. Nonsense>

I think the arabs were NOT good at math until Islam's time. If history is correct when
Muhammad started his mission there were about ten people who could read and
write in arabia, so their illiteracy include mathematic as well, what do you think fog?

Btw amalhayati2 has replied your query anything in it objectionable or agreeable to you?
part of it? or all of it?

Your post is all the way into wide screen by the way, it's really annoying.

fogtrik wrote: The Arabs were good with maths Muhammad could have conceptualised a number like 14 billion. God could have told him 14B, he could have understood.
I replied: I think the arabs were NOT good at math until Islam's time

Cyril wrote: Are you joking or is that a case of lowering pre-Islamic Arabs to glorify Islam? The Nabatean Arabs had a script of their own as the Arabic kingdoms in Southern Arabia. The Arabs of Central Western Arabia had a very defective script which was used to write the Quran. It had eventually to be perfected in a similar way as Hebrew to note vowel sounds and end conflicting views on pronunciation. I believe several thousands pre-Islamic Arabs knew that script.

My mother and my grandmother were two illiterate women in real sense of words, altho my mother asked me to show her in private what A B C look like, and how they sound. My grandmother died in the late 80's without knowing A or B nor 1 or 2. From real life experience I can see what the ummiy (illiterate) means in the Qur'an.

My mother was born around 1927. My father was lucky he went to primary school for three years, that's why he was so proud to tell me that he also knew what A B C look like. From this I can see what 1300 years look like behind them.

Of course Europe was a bit different, just by extra 500 years. Still though to look back for another 800 years behind Europe I see darkness everywhere.

Sometimes I wish to listen directly to what those historians actually have in mind while they talk. Do they see just like the way as I see?

Religion makes people ignorant. Man has not been created by one method! One book says so, but possibly several hundred million pages support evolution. You understand non of it and therefore post closed minded silly things like this. Instead of your am prey, why don't you spend 30 minutes reading wikipedia.org about evolution, they dumb it down for the average reader? Fog.