A fair discussion on my beloved Kashmir |
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rememberallah
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Posted: 31 July 2012 at 12:31pm |
In islam we can not ask separation from our madu {to whom we have to deliver our message of islam and get them to islam} that is our first duty as muslims....those who have forgotten it and are betraying Allah ask for separation......the greatest muslims came to india to unite and make them part of Ummah and were so successful that india is second most populous muslim nation due to their efforts.......the lowest of muslims seek to go aeay and look the other way, leave a mark on the heart of our madu so deep that dais can not make inroads to their hearts......i think kashmiris should not ask for independence and live with the rest of muslims in india....religion is no ground for division.....creation of pakistan was a big mistake that took the two communities {hindus and muslims} oceans apart though they live next door......indian army entered kashmir in this fashion after 1989 when violence was started in the name of independence and kashmiri hindus were killed and their property taken and their women raped by us muslims, and majority of them still live in exile and remember their ancestral home in which now some muslim family is living.....
why what will they get? what did pakistan get? how can we leave our madu?? even if our madu is negative towards us we have to remain positive towards them for the sake of Allah.....that Allah wants us to get them to islam, as muslims we know Allah is our God just as He is theirs, how can we let creatures of Allah go to hell? Quran is witness - when prophet musa sought separation from his madu Allah made him wander for 40 yrs in wilderness.....when prophet yunus sought separation from his madu Allah put him in the belly of the whale for 40 days........today we muslims are seeking separation from our madu everywhere and see how we are in the wilderness and in the belly of the whale. Prophet Muhammad {pbuh} said at the time of fateh mecca "today i will be like my brother Yusuf"....when will we muslims say that today we will be like the one whom prophet Muhammad {pbuh} became?? Quran is witness, time is witness to Quran, and Allah is witness over the time- Prophet Yusuf's story started in the belly of the whale ie in troubles of all kinds, attempt to murder, enslavement, false rape charges, unjust imprisonment by the non-muslim king......but his act of running the khilafat ie not seeking separation but well for his unjust madu, even in his slavery to non-muslim masters took him out of the belly of the whale ie his troubles and restored him his honor.....truly honor and dishonor is in Allah's hands. When will the eyes of us muslims open? How has satan took us so far? may Allah guide us |
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The whole world is like Hazrat Umar but no one is like his sister and brother in law.
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Whisper
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I believe that kashmir should be independent and Let the people there decide their own destiny Why should this loveable principle not apply to every person on our planet? |
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mohammad
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I believe that kashmir should be independent and Let the people there decide their own destiny
This is the point for that we are fighting and more than hundred of thousand youngstars have been given their lif and thanks for your good wishes for our indenpendence. Edited by mohammad |
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Shery
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I believe that kashmir should be independent and Let the people there decide their own destiny |
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raushan
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thnk u sir,
I ll follow your suggestions.
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mohammad
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Roshan Wrote:
yes,kashmiris must be allowed to live as they want...totally agree
wassalam
Allah hafiz It means you are giving the favor to Kashmiri people for their right of self-determination for whom they are striving since long time. I guess you were waiting for good doze from br. Whisper to come on the proper track. But prior of your above statement you made the below quoted statement which is containing the baseless information and cheaper way of talking. Neither I can expect the tune which you apply in the below statement from a reasonable person nor this is the right of any person to measure our freedom struggle in this way. I hope next time you will not adopt such kind of awkward way to explain any sentiment. Roshan previous statment ''earning billions from worldwide in the name of freedom struggle goes un audited or it has become easiest way to get asylum in western (so called anti islamic ) countries, proving attrocities done by indian govt to the British and American govts,who already doing the sam in Iraque.
this is not the religion but interests which guides the policy makers..''
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raushan
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yes,kashmiris must be allowed to live as they want...totally agree
wassalam
Allah hafiz
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Whisper
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Hate to a particular person or community or a govt will bring nothing but disasters, killing. Dear Raushan bibi or Raushan bhai, I am waiting for you to also throw some of your limited edition raushani (light) on what does denying basic and fundamental rights to humans brings? what you suggest abt the killing of taliban and balooch rebels by Islamic republics. I have just come back after meeting a whole range of Afghan and Baluch sardars. Kindly, don�t shed any tears on our behalf. We know how to put some Bush or any Mush where they belong. Today, both are licking their wounds. The poor Brits are trying to blame anything for their plight. Please just throw some raushani on why you don�t allow the poor, docile, noble featured artistic Kashmiris to decide how they wish to live? Just please answer that question. If you go hither and thither then be prepared with all the questions I hold for you not just about the Nagas, but a whole range of freedom movements going on right this very minute in India.
Sorry, you said something about Islamic Republic. Have you found one? Mail me their location, I will leave this afternoon. |
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